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Posted By: JayCee Comments? - 02/27/23 05:43 PM
Hello All,

Have been "competing" with a friend, shooting clays. He usually wins using a Beretta DT10 choked Cyl. and Skeet.
When I use my Beretta S2 choked Mod. and Full I have been able to beat him.

When I take my Beretta AS-20-E....

(I shot -from 16yds- his "open/lower" barrel and my AS's at the patterning plate and here is the result:

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:-)

Best,

JC

P.S.: This is the "isolated" AS-20-E pattern:
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Posted By: eeb Re: Comments? - 02/27/23 06:09 PM
I’d say you could open those chokes just a tad or so….
Posted By: eightbore Re: Comments? - 02/27/23 09:07 PM
Tell us more about your AS E 20. I am on a search for such a gun.
Posted By: JayCee Re: Comments? - 02/27/23 10:15 PM
Hello Bill,

FYI: https://doublegunshop.com/forums/ub...;Main=46050&Number=582226#Post582226

Best,

JC
Posted By: muchatrucha Re: Comments? - 02/27/23 10:41 PM
VERY tight pattern and appears to shoot low and to the left.
Posted By: Stanton Hillis Re: Comments? - 02/28/23 12:17 AM
Originally Posted by muchatrucha
VERY tight pattern and appears to shoot low and to the left.

I don't see anything that shows an aiming point. Without that, how can you say the pattern is low and to the left? Not being confrontational, just trying to understand.
Posted By: ROMAC Re: Comments? - 02/28/23 12:21 AM
Stan,

Look closely, there is a circle on the target.
Posted By: Stanton Hillis Re: Comments? - 02/28/23 12:23 AM
I see that now, and I didn't see that earlier. But, the AMOUNT of the "low and left" is easily explained by a poor hold at "triggering". As someone who has done extensive patterning I know how easily this can happen.

Thanks, Roger.
Posted By: Mark II Re: Comments? - 02/28/23 12:59 AM
He can shoot the close targets and you get shoot the long ones :-)
Posted By: craigd Re: Comments? - 02/28/23 01:52 AM
The pattern looks easy to paint over, try it a few times? I'd try to find a light bismuth load that holds tight, and shoot ducks with it.
Posted By: Stanton Hillis Re: Comments? - 02/28/23 11:10 AM
Originally Posted by craigd
I'd try to find a light bismuth load that holds tight, and shoot ducks with it.

This. ^^^^^

Or......... do y'all have turkeys to hunt?
Posted By: Nitrah Re: Comments? - 02/28/23 12:55 PM
Try patterning at distance close to the clays you shoot, 25-30 yards, but at first glance it appears your gun is full choke. While top shooters use tighter chokes most of us would be better off with imp cyl.
Posted By: JayCee Re: Comments? - 02/28/23 01:30 PM
Hello All,

Great comments! LOL!

Many Trouts, do bear in mind that that is the open barrel. ;-)

As accurately said with respect to the position of the pattern, my fault, not the gun's. Did not aim properly.

No bismuth available down here (and probably too expensive for me anyway ;-)].

No turkeys either.

I do hit clays with it and they are literally pulverized. It would be great for puréed quail!

Going shooting tomorrow. Will share some more pattern pictures from 30yds (tight barrel included).

Best,

JC
Posted By: Run With The Fox Re: Comments? - 03/01/23 10:06 PM
That patterning sheet shows the kind of pellet pattern density that Hemingway mentioned in "True At First Light' when he removed the SSG buckshot shells from his 12 gauge full choke M12 and reloaded with No. 8 shot, and crawled into a mangrove tangle to find and dispatch a wounded leopard. RWTF
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