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My hunting partner is considering the purchase of a Browning Superposed, with the intent to have Briley add thin-wall choke tubes. I seem to remember a discussion on this topic that indicated many/most Superposed's have barrel walls too thin to facilitate after-market choke tubes.
Anyone have knowledge on this topic?
Has anyone here successfully added choke tubes to a Superposed?
Thanks in advance for any responses....
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I have a Browning Superposed Broadway trap gun with Briley thin wall tubes, works just fine. Mike
USAF RET 1971-95
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Remember that very often installing choke tubes can be considered to be devaluing a gun.It is subjective, if it is your gun you do what YOU want not what others think. Frankly the makers normally get it right, they fit certain chokes for a reason. Many of us use choke as an excuse for poor shooting. Leave the gun original and shoot it.
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Have 60s Lightning 12 which was given the treatment (NOT BY ME oh Heaven forbid I should be so gauche!!). I have not had trouble getting them in or out. Gun used only for skeet and occasionally sporting clays. I operate under the illusion that the 5 screw-ins give the gun a bit more utility.
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A friend has a D3 12 gauge Superposed, which apparently was built for the European market. Briley would not attempt Thinwalls in it. The gun is the most lively 12 bore Super I've ever handled. Does anyone know if the barrels on European market guns are thinner than those destined for the colonies?
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Hi I have a Superposed P3 that had Briely thin walls and a miller trigger installed by a previous owner. Although I probably would not make the alteration myself I also think it does give some additional flexability. Ofcourse with proper loading and testing of loads you could do the same thing (if you have the time). Heaven forbid mine is even a 2 barrel set 28" and 32" and both have been altered. Jeff G
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Hi I have a Superposed P3 that had Briely thin walls and a miller trigger installed by a previous owner. Although I probably would not make the alteration myself I also think it does give some additional flexability. Ofcourse with proper loading and testing of loads you could do the same thing (if you have the time). Heaven forbid mine is even a 2 barrel set 28" and 32" and both have been altered. Jeff G
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My hunting partner that is mentioned in the first post already has an abundance of quality shotguns for hunting and clay games. If he buys this Superposed, it will be used mostly for non-competitive Sporting Clays -- hence the choke tube query.
Like me, he is a "GUNWHORE" that enjoys shooting different guns from time to time. Unlike me, he tends to keep each one, while I frequently trade or sell.
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Jerry: For someone with a number of guns anyway, it would be VERY ill-advised to install choke tubes in an original Superposed. As mentioned above, choke does not a good shot make.
Best, Kensal
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Right now, the Superposed is a good bit undervalued in the market.
Guys, the reason so many tightly choked older field guns are in such good condition is because they are fairly useless for the currently popular shotgun games with modern ammunition.
They just shoot too tight for anyone but an exceptional shooter. The old 'learn to shoot' admonition is pretty lame. Nobody should persue a sport using inferior equipment in the hopes of it making him rise to a higher performance level. They sure as hell don't do that in golf or bowling or darts or anything else. Lack of success drives people away from anything, except perhaps gambling because that's the only real possible outcome. I can't speak for fishing.
80% of Sporting Clays (including 5 stand) shooting is done with fairly open choking. Personally, I use skeet or IC. You will be amazed how far away 10 points of choke will break an incoming target when using hard shot. I could live with 10 points of choke in everything except my trap gun.
If you enjoy shooting longer range sporting, and have the facilites available, by all means do so. It's just not that appealing to the majority and the courses that set targets where most shots are inside 35 yards DO MORE BUSINESS.
The Superposed with Briley thin walls is seen from time to time. It's a good choice. Modify it however you want, and shoot it.
These things are just tools.
"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble
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