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#60927 10/13/07 03:32 PM
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odd drilling

What is this?

_Axel_ #60928 10/13/07 04:05 PM
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WW II German pilot survival gun ?

_Axel_ #60929 10/13/07 04:11 PM
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Beats the heck out of me...but i want one!

Eastern European maybe??? that knife in the stock is neat-o

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It sure looks eastern blockish. I looked in Guns of the World and a Soviet gun book and didn't see it. Definitely a survival piece.

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Ive been told its a kosmonaut survival gun?

_Axel_ #60939 10/13/07 07:08 PM
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I can seen the need for self defense in space.......you never know when you're going to run into one of those pesky western capitalists while you're cruising round the earth.

Interesting weapon...thanks for sharing!

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its not for use in space, but back on earth if the land in an unpopulated area, ive been told?

_Axel_ #61013 10/14/07 09:20 AM
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Axel, you've most likely been told wrong. Survival gun, but not for Kosmonauts. They couldn't afford the weight of such a thing.


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Yes. It is the cosmonaut survival gun. It's no longer in use/production AFAIK. The point of the thing was: Initially (like Gagarin times) the USSR space crews had problems with landing the kosmonavts to exactly the planned region (Gagarin was carried about 300 km away from where he was supposed to bump down). So what if the guys land somewhere in East Siberia, where there's no people but an abundance of wildlife? This TsKIB-designed and -made thing is the answer. A kosmonavt was supposed to be able to shoot something for dinner, lay low an angry bear, and fire a signal rocket when the resque mission finaly came close enough to find him.

The original idea came from Luftwaffe survival drillings, but, as Shotgunjones correctly mentioned, weight was an issue. So TsKIB was told to come up with something similar but as lightest as possible - it weighs, if I'm not mistaken, just 1.5 kg. without the stock (which is actually a sheathed machete).

The smooth barrels are 32 bore, loaded with special high-intencity cartriges just 60 mm long. The bottom barrel is 5.6 mm high velocity (I don't remember which at the moment).

I can dig through my pile of old magazines for an article about that, if you guys are interested in more details.

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