Another word of advice, unsolicited. There are 10,000 people registered on this forum. You are probably not the only person looking for a good hammergun in subgauge at a reasonable price. If you see another potential qualifier, if it were me, I'd PM some of the gentlemen above about their opinions. If you keep up with this forum, you will begin to recognize others whose opinions are also valued. They will also be glad to help. Then you don't have to worry about somebody else on this list, a lurker, getting the hots for the same gun you are asking about and buying it out from under you. It can happen.