I really want to thank all involved for this line of discussion. I just purchased a Syracuse Arms 16 ga. today and am attempting to learn more about it and the company. I don't think it's anything fancy but it felt good so I picked it up! I sure found the right place to learn! I live in the communist state of Illinois so I have to wait until Monday to pick it up from the Auction house...can't wait to give it a close look. Thanks again all...Joe