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I know why Americans won't give up their guns, and generally shouldn't do so. I also believe there are limits to "individual freedom."
On climate change, compared to the issues yapped in debates, climate change will become the biggest factor in how the world lives.
Average smart seems to make more harmonious and productive outcomes. I wouldn't ignore deep thinkers for fear of not having the full picture.
Involved in thousands of mom-and-pop private forestry operations, I've found their collective wisdom always prevails successfully providing they have as much information possible.
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....Bush is still roundly denigrated. He is almost singly responsible for the worst foreign policy decision since Vietnam....
....I have raised this issue here before and no one has ever responded except to say that there were too weapons of mass destruction, a claim that only a brain- dead moron could still maintain. My hope is that the US and Canada will find the way to electing better leaders.... I'm glad you typed 'almost' singly responsible. Tiny, but a disclaimer to the hundred percent true international coalition and countless congressional dems that voted in favor of action. When exactly has bo lead and gone to congress for anything. Easy, when reid and pelosi still had rubber stamps. Your wmd mantra is on the same level as slinging around incompetence and moron labels. Take a look at a map, the US really needs military bases in iraq to monitor our 'friends-n-partners' in the area. Same as GITMO for keeping an eye on the cubanos, oh and for free there's also room down there to lock up the worst of the worst. Our great leader at this moment is rethinking his retreat at all cost mantra for afganstan. Really ballsie eh. Worst than me being a brain dead moron, you sling around hope-n-change buffalo chips, but won't give any indication of who that 'leader' is and what they're going to do. All will be just perfect if we could be strict kyoto pacifists.
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No, Craig, I'm not saying I'm voting for hope and change. I'm voting strategically against my party to prevent vote splitting allowing the Conservative Party to continue running the country. The Liberal Party isn't my first choice. My country comes before party.
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James, the rap against Bush where I come from isn't hate, more as stupid for Iraq bill for dead and treasure, entirely different things.
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....I'm voting strategically against my party to prevent vote splitting allowing the Conservative Party to continue running the country. The Liberal Party isn't my first choice. My country comes before party. This, I don't understand. What makes you think the conservatives are so bad? Did they cut welfare, harm women, slash health care? Or, is their only crime that they don't trigger the hope-n-change leg tingle any more. I recall you saying that you wanted to skew a poll that imposed a happy face on Canada. Then, you were going to flank 'em and say, see you're so happy you don't want more gun control. I also recall you saying, Canada was one of the few countries of this world practically untouched by the financial meltdown. You also said many times that your leadership has kept you out of expensive, unnecessary war. Another bad thing? So your leadership prioritizes and steers Canada through the toughest of financial times, and as a show of gratitude, you demonize and hatefully attack them. With friends like 'you', who needs enemas.
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Canvasback, Of course Bush is still roundly denigrated. He is almost singly responsible for the worst foreign policy decision since Vietnam. His adventure in Iraq cost the lives of 5000 US soldiers, the maiming of tens of thousands, and the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. Obama's worst decisions are as nothing compared to this monstrous debacle. I have raised this issue here before and no one has ever responded except to say that there were too weapons of mass destruction, a claim that only a brain- dead moron could still maintain. My hope is that the US and Canada will find the way to electing better leaders. Given our political climates, the candidates we need tend not to step up. Who can blame them? Bill, when he made that decision he was supported by almost all the members of congress, both houses, and with an approval rating by Americans at large in the 80% range. If he's so dumb, why doesn't everyone else who was on board own up to it? And so what if there weren't WMD's to be found. The Iraqi's had been trying to get them for years and Saddam claimed he had them. Who bluffs about shit like that?
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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James, the rap against Bush where I come from isn't hate, more as stupid for Iraq bill for dead and treasure, entirely different things. You gotta get out and talk to more young people. Young, university educated and living in large cities. Their shit doesn't stink and they have been trained by their professors to hate Bush and to equate Bush and Harper as the same....NRA loving Republicans. And so, with a poor grasp of the facts, they are sure of what they think.
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The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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What makes you think the conservatives are so bad? Did they cut welfare, harm women, slash health care? Or, is their only crime that they don't trigger the hope-n-change leg tingle any more......I also recall you saying, Canada was one of the few countries of this world practically untouched by the financial meltdown. You also said many times that your leadership has kept you out of expensive, unnecessary war. Another bad thing?
So your leadership prioritizes and steers Canada through the toughest of financial times, and as a show of gratitude, you demonize and hatefully attack them. With friends like 'you', who needs enemas. Bizarre, isn't it?
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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Canvasback, yes he had the support, but he got it by fudging the intelligence. I sat a pox on every congressional member who supported him, including Hillary. She has long since admitted she was dead wrong there. Conspicuously absent from the list of supporters there is BO. He got that one right.
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Bill, wasn't Bo still community activating about that time?
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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