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lets all try to stay on topic and be civil to each other and refrain from personal attack...
anybody wish to comment on the fergus books?
for example, on page 69 of "a rough shooting dog", there begins the best piece of writing about grouse hunting that i have ever read...
it describes an encounter between three hunters and a grouse...
the first hunter is the author... the second hunter is his springer spaniel...and the third hunter is a hawk, high above watching it all...if you want to know what happens, read the book...
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keep it simple and keep it safe...
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and dave, if i lived where you do, i too would be out with a good dog, puttin up birds...might even shoot at one once in a while to make the dog happy...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Ed, would you like me to post some QUOTES of your own personal attacks? Or would you prefer to see some of the anti-hunting and anti-gun posts you have frequently made here on a Firearms Forum in order to Troll and disrupt things? ANTI-GUN POSTS by ED GOOD Or perhaps you'd like to share with everyone how many times you have been booted from this Forum for your sick and threatening behavior? canvasback wasn't just making up shit about you. Our friend Ed did it again! here is one definition: People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) is the largest animal rights organization in the world, with more than 3 million members and supporters. PETA focuses its attention on the four areas in which the largest numbers of animals suffer the most intensely for the longest periods of time: on factory farms, in the clothing trade, in laboratories, and in the entertainment industry. We also work on a variety of other issues, including the cruel killing of beavers, birds, and other “pests” as well as cruelty to domesticated animals. PETA works through public education, cruelty investigations, research, animal rescue, legislation, special events, celebrity involvement, and protest campaigns. Read more: http://www.peta.org/about-peta/#ixzz2nGfdrBVKdon't sound so bad to me? what do you think? And here's yet another... Ed's post # 407727 as for the gun control issue...we are the only country in the world that seems to tolerate mass murder, in the name of an individual right...its about time that we as a society realize that we are over gunned with too many super dangerous weapons in the hands of too many super dangerous people... it is long past time to do as the rest of the civilized world has done and simply, disarm... The last one was one of my favorites because even after repeatedly seeing it, your good friend and fellow anti-2nd Amendment Troll King Brown has repeatedly denied ever seeing any anti-gun sentiment posted on this Forum. I was also amused by Old Colonel a.k.a. Gladys Kravitz' hypocritical plea to the new contributor Ryman Gun Dog. I am sure that Gladys wants everyone to IGNORE the folks she disapproves of, because if they actually pay attention, they might begin to see some of the little games and highly selective civility played by F.A.G.'s (Fake Ass Gentlemen), FUDD's, and sneaky little worms.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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Gentlemen,
One of the reasons I joined the Double Gun Forum is the civility, with very few personal attacks. ........
Unfortunately civility here while practiced by the preponderance of the members is not universal. Your best weapon against the bother is to identify those who decline to be civil and use the ignore feature. It is regrettable, but necessary if you do not want to hear their agendas, anger, and otherwise distractions. Many good people have argued for civility without result. Soon, if not already, you will see the patterns and note those persons you would rather not read. I do note that some are only occasionally bothersome and otherwise post some good data. .......................I was also amused by Old Colonel a.k.a. Gladys Kravitz' hypocritical plea to the new contributor Ryman Gun Dog. I am sure that Gladys wants everyone to IGNORE the folks she disapproves of, because if they actually pay attention, they might begin to see some of the little games and highly selective civility played by F.A.G.'s (Fake Ass Gentlemen), FUDD's, and sneaky little worms.
Bless you Keith, I am happy to have provided you with amusement, however you are factually incorrect. 1. Nothing I stated was hypocritical. 2. I did not tell Ryman who he should ignore, I clearly state he can identify for Himself who he should ignore. 3. I long ago gave up asking for civility, as I realize some will forever refuse any semblance of it. Lastly you demonstrate clearly with your posts the quality of your thoughts. Your wisdom and qualities are aptly depicted in your posts. I continue to wish you and everyone in Pulaski well.
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keet, no, i will not participate in your trashing of this fine thread...if we all stay on topic, maybe it will evolve into a discussion of favored double guns for grouse shooting...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Bless you Keith, I am happy to have provided you with amusement, however you are factually incorrect.
Gladys Kravitz, aka old colonel, once again, it is you who is factually incorrect. Once again, you are demonstrating your inability to comprehend what I have posted, and even after QUOTING my words, you go on to twist them. I had made a point-by-point detailed rebuttal to your reply. I almost submitted it, but then decided to just delete it. It would be wasted on someone as ignorant and mentally disturbed as you. I've tried that route before, but you are simply too stupid, and you only see what you wish to see. You certainly didn't post in this Thread to contribute anything about grouse populations. So just console yourself with the notion that you are good, civil, mannerly, and anything other than a tight-assed pin-headed hypocrite. And please keep your disingenuous blessings. They are as fake as you are.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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One member believes that the be-all and end-all of our humanity is guns. It's his right. To declaim others rhetorically and without reason who think otherwise is wrong.
Members enjoying the use of firearms, having different opinions of regulations and their use, have shown no disloyalty to our fraternity or governance by their comments.
It's "the American way." My way or the highway doesn't work.
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....Members enjoying the use of firearms, having different opinions of regulations and their use, have shown no disloyalty to our fraternity or governance by their comments.
It's "the American way." My way or the highway doesn't work. Hasn't 'their' comments only ever been about 'their' feelings and nothing more. Wouldn't you agree that 'their' policy loyalty aligns with 'their' vote? I don't know if a great game bird would recognize an international border if it were a windmill going full tilt an inch in front of its beak, eh? Why prod frat brothers to choose an agenda, not to mention a nation?
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One member believes that the be-all and end-all of our humanity is guns. It's his right. To declaim others rhetorically and without reason who think otherwise is wrong.
Members enjoying the use of firearms, having different opinions of regulations and their use, have shown no disloyalty to our fraternity or governance by their comments.
It's "the American way." My way or the highway doesn't work. Seen this movie, already. The Gun Control act of 1968 taught the NRA to give not an inch, and they (we) never will again. The 1968 act made things more difficult and unreasonable for the law abiding, and never, ever, prevented a single crime. Because, that was the intention. My way, or, the highway, with regard to constitutional amendments,is a fine mantra. Best, Ted
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One member believes that the be-all and end-all of our humanity is guns. It's his right. To declaim others rhetorically and without reason who think otherwise is wrong.
Members enjoying the use of firearms, having different opinions of regulations and their use, have shown no disloyalty to our fraternity or governance by their comments.
It's "the American way." My way or the highway doesn't work. Not at all surprising to see you jump in King, to defend your fellow anti-gun troll Ed Good, and your dysfunctional little pen pal Gladys. Despite your curious and insane proclamations and denials, calls for disarming the American public and support for anti-gunners actually is very disloyal to "our fraternity" of gun owners. We all know that is not your fraternity, which is composed of Liberal Left Socialist loons who work relentlessly to deprive us of our 2nd Amendment rights. It would be nice, and civil, if you could offer a shred of proof that "One member believes that the be-all and end-all of our humanity is guns." But you can't, and you still can't stop lying. Thanks for chiming in King, even though your insanity has nothing to do with grouse populations. This will be your legacy here... your longstanding defense of Liberal Left Democrat anti-gunners, and your anti-NRA, anti-2nd Amendment, and anti-gun rhetoric. It doesn't play well on a firearms enthusiasts forum, and if you had any sense at all, you'd get that. For some of our new members and visitors who haven't see your stuff: The Court departed from the original understanding of the Second. The NRA and other groups rejected the original interpretation. Even as late as 1991, the jurist Burger appointed by Nixon said "the Second Amendment has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word 'fraud,' on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime." In 2008, in the District of Columbia v. Heller, what Burger said was fraud was accepted by the court. Interesting stuff. Ed, historically the individual "right" to bear arms is relatively new. I believe John Ashcroft in 2002 became the first federal attorney-general to proclaim that individuals should be able to own guns. The Supreme Court in 2008 overturned all mainstream legal and historical scholarship by ruling that there is an individual right to own firearms although with some limits. Obama said it again last week.
I believe that during the previous 218 years the Second meant what it said: firearms shall be held by "the People"---a collective and not individual right---insofar they are in the service of "a well-regulated militia." Was an individual right even mentioned at the Constitutional Convention or in the House when it ratified the Amendment or when debated in state legislatures? I don't think so. ....Americans choose how they want to live, accept mass murder, mass school executions, mass incarceration (suddenly recognized as wrong). As much as they dislike it, little is done about it. Democracies make choices but few modern countries are as burdened in solving these societal problems as the US with three centuries of a ruinous race legacy. Owning guns and sales of guns is more about hunting and shooting sports than the love and defence of freedom. It's hardly mean-spirited to note that I'm an Obama supporter. I'm proud of it, apparent here as long as he's been around. He's anti-gun but has kept his legislative gun in his holster to position his party for '16. Pew Research has a good reputation, Jim. It's a source in the link Ed posted. Crime is declining in Canada, too, although our tougher-on-crime federal government can't build jails and penitentiaries fast enough.
Misfires seems near unanimous that there's no correlation between the number of guns and surpassing US gun violence, and that more guns lowers a homicide rate experienced nowhere else in the developed world.
I believe there is a connection---as most liberals do--- and that those conservative and liberal countries with exceedingly lower rates are a result of their democratically chosen, more-onerous, freedom-restricting regulations, common-sense or not.
I commented earlier on the cultural differences between the US and other countries in this respect, including how differently the US and Canada developed. Why do Americans dismiss the graphs and statistics? Then there's this little gem where King attempts to link our Constitutional RKBA to an insane allegation that we "accept" mass murder and mass school shootings: Democracies make choices. Americans accept mass murder to defend an individual right to bear arms in the name of personal freedom. But only you could see your own anti-gun rhetoric, and calls for disarming Americans by your friend Ed Good, and actually say this: Fifteen years of my almost daily visits here confirm there are no anti-gun members. When lies and dishonesty become as reflexive and second nature as breathing, you'll have that. Of course, there's lots more of the same sort of crap you posted here. Your weird little pen pal friend Gladys, aka old colonel, thinks it's wrong of me to QUOTE you. She thinks your legacy here should be something other than your actual words. But it was you who said this: Dimensions of character---and culpability---are implied in the words we use. Maybe you should tell Gladys how proud you are to carry the anti-gunners ball for them.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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