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an a reminder from the god dave...

"Note: If you are not interested in buying the advertised firearm and have never owed it. Don't post extraneous garbage under the listings keep your thoughts off the board."

Since when did you ever pay attention to that, ed? When?

Maybe you should keep YOUR thoughts off the board. And your junk guns. You never sell them anyway. Still got the .410? Too bad, but I really was interested in a .410.

an Keith, it is such a pleasure to read your writings...

your eloquence and style are extra ordinary...

only, if I could achieve your level of literary perfection...

then I could refrain from my weak resort to the florida kracker/ny street dialectic that I love so much to express here...

youse no watt I'm sayin here...

anyway, this goes back about 50 years or so ago...so i will try to remember it as best i can...but pls dont fault me, if i dont get every little detail right...

it was early in the morning of a cool summer day, which means it was most likely late in august...me an ma was settled in an snoozin away, when all of a sudden...

ah hears this sound, that makes me think that ma might be catchin ah cold due to the cool weather an such...

but then ah realize that the snorin sound was comin from the outside, in the big oak in the back yard...

so ah throws open the sash...

and what to my wonder do i see, but...

the biggest damned owl ever...

ah mean like damn near three feet long, jes sittin there, with its fedders awl puffed up an awl...

well, now even ah knows that owls are vicious grouse killers that can wipe out ah whole flock of erm in a single night...

yah see...grouse like to roost in conifers...for you boys in se jawja, thems pine trees...

anyways, so what some times happens, is an owl swoops in silent like an grabs ah sleepin bird, wid out disturbin the udders, an flys off silent, an then proceeds to eat just the brain, droppin the rest of the bird to the ground...

and then the murderin so an so, swoops in silent like an grabs anudder sleepin bird an so on, an so on, until hes killed every damn one of erm...

once, when out bird huntin one frosty mornin in se ny state, i came upon ah scene of absolute horror...

there, scattered around a big norway spruce, were seven dead grouse...

all undisturbed, cept they were all dead an all missin their heads...

owls are sometimes called silent death for good reason...

so bein the good citizen an conservationist that i am, ah quickly reached under the bed an retrieved my trusty ithaca 37, equipped with poychoke and drew ah bead on that murderin so an so...

an jes before i pulled the trigger...

hit looks me in the eye an mudders...

buenos dias, senor...

well, ah swan...

ah aint neva heared no bird, cept mebbe ah crow or ah parrot talk like that...

need less to say...

but ah will say hit any hows...

ah was takin ah back...

an then bout this time ma wakes up an ax...

who you talkin to out the winder?...

so, what am i gonna say?..

so i tells the truth...

hit aint nobody, ah says to ma, jest sum damn owl tellin me to have ah nice day...

wid that she shakes her head an rolls over an goes back to sleep...

so, ah casually peeks out the winder agin...

an yep, you guessed hit...

hit was still there, big as brass...

an this time hit looks me straight into my eyes, like nuttin ah ever seen before...

an ah swear, hit was smilin...

course, you probaby askin, how can an owl smile?

well, ah dont rightly know needer...

nor do ah wanna know cause that aint the point o this story...

which i am yet to fully decide on any how...

to be continyaed...

Buyer beware...

gee battle...two can play that game...

an heres my feedback...

https://www.gunbroker.com/a/feedback/profile/128526

wares yos...in duh turlet ah suspec...

Tarted up modified barrel steel removed from the breach refinished lc smith buyer beware

Glad I could help Stevie. However, you are lying when you say that I pointed out how much repair work used to come through your shop. Please show us where I ever said that. Just another demonstration of your lack of integrity. What I said was that you "farm out" or sub-contract repairs to real gunsmiths who do the actual work. Then you neglect to give credit to the real craftsmen who did the work. You admitted that you do that. So I said smart shooters would do better to eliminate the middle-man/woman, and just send their work directly to real gunsmiths.

And you are quite mistaken about running your business with integrity when you knowingly and proudly continue to do Free Advertising of your business ventures in your Tagline, and neglect to pay Dave Weber $12.00 for each and every successful sale resulting from your ads. You even went so far as to brag about the number of firearm importing jobs on which you've screwed Dave. And we know this to be true because we have seen other members here acknowledge using that service. It would be nice if they at least had the integrity to pay Dave, since it looks like you never intend to follow the rules about paying him $12.00 for sales made by advertising on his forum.

Now here's a PM you sent me yesterday at 12:12 PM STEVIE. Too bad you didn't have the balls to post these words here, or to send this message to Dave Weber to let him know that you don't give a shit about his feelings on guys (and non-binary gals) doing free advertising of their business ventures without compensating him. He is going to see them now! I'm posting the exact unedited words you PM'd to me so everyone can see your claims of integrity are as phony as you and the people who "liked" them:


What a joke, telling us you run your business with integrity. Phony as a three dollar bill. Just my opinions, as always. All my best you fraud.

Gee Mark, this following post which you made yesterday, doesn't sound like a reasonable person asking reasonable questions on an open forum. It sounds like more of the same attempts that you, and others who have the goal of driving Ed away and disrupting his sales here, have been doing for a long time:


There were some concerns about Ed's return policy several years ago. And the guys who simply hate him were successful in convincing Dave to pull his advertisements. However, since then, Dave is apparently satisfied with Ed's policies. And he is apparently aware that Ed is more than willing to pay him the $12.00 fee for a successful sale... unlike a couple Free Advertising Gunsmiths who want everyone to believe that they have integrity.

So who are you to question Ed's return policies, and to subsequently prevent a sale that would result in Dave getting paid? Are you a Moderator or Site Administrator who has the right to determine who may post guns for sale here? How many guns have you personally bought from Ed, and how many did he refuse a return on for good cause? Is Ed boasting or sending you PM's about doing Free Advertising in his Tagline like the seller of refinished guns you defended yesterday?

There are people here who would just stand there and allow you to piss on their leg, and tell them it's raining. I'm not one of them.


David, perhaps you used a poor choice of words when you commented that Ed's gun has "ruined integrity", instead of saying that chamber lengthening might negatively affect collector value. Better you would have said nothing at all since you are not an interested buyer. Personally, I also prefer vintage doubles that are in original condition. However, we know that many guys are willing to pay a premium for a nice shiny refinished gun with opened chokes, and chambers that handle easily available ammo. Some guys even pay many times what a gun is worth to Turnbulls, Bachelders, Kearcher, etc., to have their guns refinished... often with period incorrect finishes. And they do this knowing they may never recoup their cost. It also appears that Ed's selling price is mainly in the hands of the guy who consigned it to him. Ed's profit will be a small percentage of the sales price, and he will pay Dave $12.00 out of his profit.... because he actually does have that sort of integrity. Guys who think the price is too high should PM Ed to see if the consigner will accept less. That's what Ed did recently when he tried to buy a gun from battle. I see a lot of guns here from other sellers that have asking prices much higher than I consider realistic. I never have dumped on their Threads because of that.

So from this point on, I expect that we will be seeing you make similar comments about "ruined integrity" whenever you see someone else selling any gun in refinished condition, or with altered chambers, chokes, etc. That would convince me that you are sincere, and weren't just targeting Ed, knowing your comments would have a negative effect upon his attempt to sell his gun. Until then, the same thought about pissing on our legs applies.

And finally, it seems that the Nutty Professor wishes to affirm once again that he was lying when he recently claimed to be interested in buying a gun from Ed. Not only that, but he seems to think he not only has the right to run a One-Turd Whining Crybaby" campaign to defund this site, but that he also has the right to decide who has the right to post For Sale advertisements here:


If Ed or jOe did this crap, several phony hypocrites here would be screaming to Dave to have them banned and censored. Many of them would be doing their crying to Dave in PM's or emails. They don't have the stones or honesty to admit that their fraudulent complaints are simply a cover excuse they use to silence and drive away their enemies. I'd also advise Ed to not take the bait by responding to battle and others in kind, because they will then try to have him banned by crying in unison to Dave. If the Nutty Professor did this Trolling and defunding campaign over on Upland Journal Forum, Brad Eden would bounce him in a heartbeat. This place really needs more Moderation... and psychological help for pathological frauds and liars too.

I'm still thinking you are slowing down old boy, usually you are having a cow over any changes I make to my tagline within hours. You will need to continue on with your rant without me. All my best Billie.

Steve