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| by tanky |
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I've bought these tools since I was in high school in the 70's. I bought them from Brownells. Then I guess about 10 years ago or so Brownells still listed them but they where always out of stock. So I looked up where they where made and got their website as DemBartco.com. I was abele at that time to order the tools I needed but it took some time to get them. I generally checker 18 lpi or 22 lpi but now have a need for 28 lpi for a restoration project on an August Schueler 12 ga OXU. That's what the gun came with so I would like to keep it in original form. I've read on some other forums where people have had a terrible time dealing with them. Things like excessive time filling orders or just not answering the phone. Their website now takes you to a website designer instead of DemBarts website. I have not tried calling the number I have for them yet. We may have some members that live in Washington state near them. My question is are they still in business? I understand that it is probably a small operation and the demand for hand checkering tools is probably not what it use to be with all the plastic guns out there. Also the use of power checkering tools. I would like a power checkering tool but the price doesn't justify the few stocks per year I checker. The tools that I have are wearing out so there is a need for replacement cutters. Any one have any recent dealings with them?
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| by BrentD, Prof |
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I've bought these tools since I was in high school in the 70's. I bought them from Brownells. Then I guess about 10 years ago or so Brownells still listed them but they where always out of stock. So I looked up where they where made and got their website as DemBartco.com. I was abele at that time to order the tools I needed but it took some time to get them. I generally checker 18 lpi or 22 lpi but now have a need for 28 lpi for a restoration project on an August Schueler 12 ga OXU. That's what the gun came with so I would like to keep it in original form. I've read on some other forums where people have had a terrible time dealing with them. Things like excessive time filling orders or just not answering the phone. Their website now takes you to a website designer instead of DemBarts website. I have not tried calling the number I have for them yet. We may have some members that live in Washington state near them. My question is are they still in business? I understand that it is probably a small operation and the demand for hand checkering tools is probably not what it use to be with all the plastic guns out there. Also the use of power checkering tools. I would like a power checkering tool but the price doesn't justify the few stocks per year I checker. The tools that I have are wearing out so there is a need for replacement cutters. Any one have any recent dealings with them? Are you aware of Steve Earle's checkering tools? I don't know if he has what you want. I suspect not, but he does make cutters for some types of checkering tools. And EVERYTHING he makes is as perfect as can be made by a human. At least, that has been my experience and the experiences of others that I know of.
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| by CJ Dawe |
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Dem Bart are ok ,but they in no way compare to Ullman or Steve Earles products ,take it from someone who makes a living doing this ,do yourself a favor and buy from the guys I mentioned
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| by Doug Mann |
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OK, I guess it's time I joined this conversation. Steve Earle and I are very good friends and a few years back I asked Steve if he could make checkering tips, I was having a difficult time getting Gunline tips at the time. The current Brownells cutters were not good at all! He looked at the Gunline cutters and said "sure" and started making cutters for me and the trade. He also asked about the Brownells handles so I gave him one of my Full-view handles to copy. He made some much needed changes to the basic handle and started to make them also.
I also like Michael's product and use his carbide tipped tools also. I do use Steve's spacers and single line cutters exclusively because they are great and he is a very, very good friend. Just a thought on Dembart tools and tips, I haven't used one in over fifty years and I have a collection of them that people have given me. I should just sell them because I ain't gonna use them!!! I see people asking about Dembart tools and where to get them, my thought is WHY!?
Some of you are probably wondering why I don't use and electric tool, well I had one and just didn't like it. I'm reasonably fast doing my work by hand and it keeps me busy.
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| by tanky |
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BrentD, thanks for the link. I will probably buy some of his cutters. I guess the reason that many people have an interest in Dem Bart is because the cutters are cheap. I had heard that gunline was not that good so I never bothered trying them. Like I said I started buying Dem Bart in the early70's and cost was very important then since I was in HS. Cost now is not so much a determining factor as longevity and quality. I've got enough good info from you guys to formulate a clear path forward. Thanks to all!
Hugh L, the German gun I am working on came without a stock. I measured the fore end checkering and with these old eyes of mine came out to 28 LPI. I figured it would be metric and it may be a couple a thousands either way but I will not be recutting any of the old checkering. The gun now has a Bastogne walnut stock and will soon have
a new fore end. The old fore end has some cracks and missing wood so the new one will be shaped the same but a little beefier where needed.
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