I have a Moncrief and Gye double rifle that is marked Reregulated by Alex Henry and on the bottom of the tubes Henry's patent rifling, A&T with serial number. Does anyone know if the Adams and Tait records survive? How about Moncrief and Gye? Alexander Henry? Thanks, JAP PS, this has been reamed out to a 28 gauge shotty.

What is a shotty?

Shotgun, sorry for the confusion. moodyholler

My grandmother Was a Moncrief. Maybe I should have inherited that gun!. Was Moncrief and Gye in Scotland or England?
The Moncriefs were Scottish/

Address on barrel is St James St London and Edinburg Scotalnd for Alex Henry. Thanks, moodyholler

I've only scanned a source or two and can add very little but Gye & Moncrieff was a partnership that peddled longarms from 60 St. James's Street, London from 1876 to about 1885, when they appear to have moved to 44 Dover Street and dropped off the map in 1887. I haven't seen one or searched for the patent(1878??) but they designed some odd breech extension lock-up to compete with the Purdey lock-up with interfaced with the lumps of the tubes.

Alexander Moncrieff of Perth, Scotland?
http://www.google.com/patents?id=sYtUAAA...;q=&f=false


http://books.google.com/books?id=lpsEAAA...don&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=euANAAA...;q=&f=false
Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Pic/article of the Gye & Moncrieff fastner as found in "Modern Sportsman's Gun and Rifle"(1882):(select page 200)

http://books.google.com/books?id=OLwUAAA...eet&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=OLwUAAA...%20&f=false


Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

I have a Guy and Montcrief Doube 360 BPE. Cased with tools, a knock out gun in fantastic condition.

Brian, pleasure us with some pics and any idea of the date?

"Chapter XV

Gunmaker and Stories

About this time I tried yet another profession, and joined Lionel Gye, late R.A., and my friend Lynedoch Moncrieff, who had retired from the Navy, and had together started in the gun and rifle business in St. James’s Street.

I found it very interesting, and learnt all the secrets of the trade at Birmingham and at Liege. We did much business with Scott and with Webley, of Birmingham, whose businesses were afterwards joined in a company, and have been so well known."

Interesting read/insight and I'm curious as to how heavily Belgium was sourced:

http://books.google.com/books?id=8CMLAAA...eff&f=false

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Dickson has the A Henry records.

Raimey, very good find. Thanks

I have a fairly plain Gye & Moncrief hammer gun which was given to me in the 1970s. It looked as if had been "reamed" to 28 gauge, from a double rifle. It had a short section of rib at the action, but with no obvious provision for a sight. At the muzzle, the barrels are banded together, again, no obvious provision for a sight.

The late H A Clifton lined it to .38-55 for me while he was in California (later in Bellingham, WA). David Yale added a front sight and a tang sight on the wrist.

I will try to do some photos in the next week or so after the holidays.

Thanks a bunch. How can I get in touch with DICKSON? Mine is a small light DR, with back action locks and stalking safeties. Pictures can be found here

Moody-


This is a shotgun that started life as a double rifle?
Pity that it got hacked.
Can you re-size those images so that we can see it better please?
Will you also re-size the photo of the barrel flats and show it too?




Cheers
Tinker

Too bad

To convert it to a shOtty' wouldn't the firing pins and breech face holes have to be modified to convert it.

Moody-


I'd already found those images, I'd like to see them bigger.
Also - I'd like to see a better image of those barrels at the breech end and the locking lumps too.
Can you do close-up images with your camera or shoot higher-resolution/larger images?
From what I see, that's a really long action bar (barrel flats and action flats...) - to see those markings would be very nice.
Also - can you show an image of the standing breech of the action (where the firing pins protrude) and the root where the standing breech and the action bar meet?




Cheers
Tinker

Tinker, send me an email to moodyholler@cox.net and I will send larger pics. Thanks, moodyholler

Moody, what is that "shotties" weight? Even though not what it started life as, it still exudes coolness.

Tim

Moody-

Thanks.
Email sent, looking forward to seeing bigger images!




Cheers
Tinker

Timothy, not sure of weight. Will try and weigh it next week. Sure not mare than 6lbs. Merry Christmas, moodyholler