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Posted By: Bob Cash Iver Johnson’s Arms and Cycle Works - 09/14/19 04:01 PM
I sure do like the company name.

Anyone shooting a Skeet-er ? Loving it?
Who’s got a Skeet-er in .410 ?
I understand the choke markings but has anyone measured the constriction, C / O ?

Pictures would be great.
Experiences too !
Posted By: sxsman1 Re: Iver Johnson’s Arms and Cycle Works - 09/14/19 06:47 PM
I shoot a Skeet-er and love it.
I know the right barrel is marked C for choke and the left barrel is marked O for open. I'm not sure of the constriction but I think the C is full choke and the O is cylinder.
Pete
Eightbore has a very rare .410 Skeeter. Maybe he will mention it here.

I don't have a Skeeter, but do have an Iver Johnson Special Trap, which is a 32", vent rib, single barrel trap gun. It was the "poor man's trap gun, IMO. Actually, I've got two of them, one in pretty good condition.

SRH
Posted By: eightbore Re: Iver Johnson’s Arms and Cycle Works - 09/15/19 12:09 AM
Stan, I owned the IJ Special Trap that was pictured in Conley's book on single trap guns. I foolishly sold it many years ago. Maybe you have my old gun. My double trap is a great gun too, vent rib, ugly factory forend, double triggers, original pad. I have a scarce 12 gauge Skeeter with Miller trigger and ejectors. The little 30" barrel Miller trigger .410 Skeeter is my favorite, of course. I've never seen another, but I hear they exist. I don't know about the choke markings. My .410 choke tools have disappeared. I always thought "choke and open" but I'm not sure about that.
That wonderful .410 Skeeter with the 30" tubes is the one I had in mind, Bill.

SRH
Posted By: Bob Cash Re: Iver Johnson’s Arms and Cycle Works - 09/15/19 01:46 PM
Regarding chokes
I’ve read that the Skeet-res were choked O / C, Open / Choke.
A 75 % pattern at 20 yards left barrel / 75% pattern at 30 yards right barrel.
Skeet in / Skeet out.

I also read that some guns were reverse bored,
Loose on the left and tight on the right.

Can anyone with tools and a .410 Skeet-er give decimal constrictions?

Thanks.
The great thing about Skeet-ers was that they were made heavy , to be used for lots of clay target shooting. I cannot recall another maker of the period using this design.

The 410 Skeet-er weighs 6# 4oz, and the 28 gauge Skeet-er weighs 7# 13 oz.
Just measured my 410 Skeet-er , marked C and O. Both barrels had .010" constriction. Guess that's not much help. By the way, we had often "guessed" that the C and O stood for Coming and Outgoing.

My 28 gauge Skeet-er is marked I and M, with the constrictions of .010" and .015"
I have a skeeter that is only 28 inches, but it does have a miller trigger, ejectors a straight stock withfancy wood. I did not check chokes but .010 is a bunch. my skeet tubes use .002 and shoot a full 30 inch pattern at 20 yards. A list i have used for years lists skeet as.002 mod. as.007and full as.015. I still have fond memories of killing a pair of doves at 30 yards with a 2.5, .5 oz load of nines.
bill
Posted By: eightbore Re: Iver Johnson’s Arms and Cycle Works - 09/15/19 03:28 PM
OK, I got out my Vernier caliper and my "small hole gauge", the cheap way to measure .410 chokes. My 30" .410 is a real horse, seven pounds, two ounces. Right muzzle .400, left muzzle .390. Don't know the exact bore diameter, but if it's .410 or anywhere near that, we have serious choke. My small hole gauge is pretty short so it probably won't go deep enough to get a reading on the bore, but I'll try next time I get a chance.
Posted By: Researcher Re: Iver Johnson’s Arms and Cycle Works - 09/15/19 03:36 PM
I have several IJ singles, but my only sxs is a 20ga Hercules. Maybe I'll upgrade one day...Geo
Posted By: eightbore Re: Iver Johnson’s Arms and Cycle Works - 09/15/19 04:31 PM
A Skeeter is not much of an upgrade over a Hercules with condition. Good luck in your search. My search for a .410 Skeeter in my price range was about 60 years.
The ad mentions a "hooded comb"- what exactly is this. Bill-it took you 60 years to find a .410 bore I-J skeeter-- that is, indeed, true patience. RWTF
Posted By: DAM16SXS Re: Iver Johnson’s Arms and Cycle Works - 09/15/19 07:26 PM
The SKEET-ER I had was a .410 two-barrel set with two forends stamped 1 & 2 on barrels and forends. It had fancy wood, straight stock, beavertail, twin ivories on both barrels, a Miller single trigger and one barrel set was marker O and C and the other marked C and M if I remember correctly. First time I shot it at Skeet I broke 23 or 24 - I don't remember which but I knew it was the arrow, not the Indian.

Don't remember why I ever sold that gun.... I walk with a limp cause I've been kickin' myself in the ass ever since.
Posted By: Bob Cash Re: Iver Johnson’s Arms and Cycle Works - 09/15/19 09:54 PM




Posted By: eightbore Re: Iver Johnson’s Arms and Cycle Works - 09/15/19 10:09 PM
I remember Dean's two barrel set, wonderful gun. A two barrel .410 set was floating around Virginia shows about 25 or 30 years ago and I would not bite the bullet. I also would not bite the bullet on $4000 plus average .410 guns over the years. The 30" gun held my attention. "Hooded comb" probably refers to the fluted comb in the picture of the pistol grip gun that is absent in the straight grip gun.
Posted By: Bob Cash Re: Iver Johnson’s Arms and Cycle Works - 09/16/19 04:26 AM








Looks like you were bitten by a Skeeter.

That's nice bOb.
Posted By: Bob Cash Re: Iver Johnson’s Arms and Cycle Works - 09/16/19 12:56 PM
Don't know much about these little guns,
but their choice of wood certainly doesn't dissappoint.



Posted By: DAM16SXS Re: Iver Johnson’s Arms and Cycle Works - 09/16/19 01:39 PM
Skeeters usually had very nice wood.

Mine was S 3018 E and is in the A&F records at G&H.
Originally Posted By: Bob Cash
Don't know much about these little guns,
but their choice of wood certainly doesn't dissappoint.






You might have an upgraded skeeter bOb....
Posted By: Bob Cash Re: Iver Johnson’s Arms and Cycle Works - 09/18/19 03:55 AM
Probably missed this, huh jOe?
Originally Posted By: DAM16SXS
Skeeters usually had very nice wood.


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