so I just bought a crap ton of old once fired 12 gauge paper hulls. About 1000 are Federals which I know about. Most are Western or Winchester Super target (which I assume are the same hull) supposedly from the Grand back in the 60's. Then there are some Remington Shure Shot and Canuck Trap & Grand marked Hulls too.
The questions are...
can I use Federal Paper data for these assuming low pressure?
Do they all take 209 primers or do I need old 109 Remington primers?
I think I have about 7000 total
Thanks

The quick answer is weed out the Federals and throw the rest into the incinerator.

I have loaded thousands of the Winchester Super Target hulls with PB
Started using the Lee Hand Loader and moved up

All the hulls you mentioned take the 209 primer, except the Rem hulls

Is the 7000 total, hulls or Rem *57 primers
I only have 5000 of the *57 primers left
Mike

its 7000 hulls plus whatever I already had.
I dont know if I have any 57 primers still or not as I have been using them in a 209 primer pistol for dog training
Thanks I should have old data around but would rather use a plastic wad rather than cork & felt. I do have a few pounds of PB

So, not to be disrespectful, but I am trying to figure out why you guys like/use paper hulls. I see gobs of them in the trash cans out at the club, and I can't understand why you guys prefer them over plastic hulls so much. Do plastic hulls mess up your guns ? Can somebody educate me on this? Thanks.

Jimmy, those that like them do so for the same reason we like double guns, SXS. Nothing practical; just adherence to tradition. Gil

Okay. I see. I thought maybe the plastic hulls would mess up the damascus barrels or the older guns or something. So you guys prefer the Federal paper hulls, huh? That's great. Thanks for the information. I appreciate it.

There are alot a really good plastic handled knives out there and quite a few black plastic guns... Style counts for a lot!

Jimmy W,

IT IS THE SMELL

To those of us with some years on us, nothing smells better than a freshly fired Federal paper. When I started trap shooting back in the 1960s at the old Seattle Skeet & Trap Cub at Redmond, WA, the fields would be littered with once fired Winchester, Western, Remington & Peters hulls, but if a Federal was on the ground it had burned through pin holes from being reloaded three or four times. The load most popular was 23-grains of Red Dot, a nitro card, two Alcan Felton Blue Streak wads pushing 1 1/8-ounce of shot.

Original formula Hoppe''s #9 is up there with paper hull's smell after firing...

This is why!
Karl

That's a hoot!

You Wascal, you!! I was going to ask if they smelled better when you sniffed them, but I didn't want to be a smart alec. Good one, skeettx. You too, Karl!!

so yes its the smell and the tradition. I guess it is also more biodegradable if you dont use a plastic wad. Also lower recoil...

There's more reason than has been mentioned, JimmyW. Paper hulls also generate lower pressures than plastic ones, all other variables being equal.

Ooooh that smell. Nothing like it. It takes me back to my youth

Ya, the smell, caused by the use of bees wax. Newer ones probably paraffin. Anyone with some age feels some nostalgia when they smell that. Now Hoppes no 9 original contained Nitro benzene. Benzene does have a pleasant smell but is one of the most cancer causing chemicals known. Wonder how many shooters died of cancer as a result of handling that before Hoppes changed the formula. I'll bet there where a lot of mysterious deaths where they made the stuff.

How about this? Would this be tradition enough? He-he!! Will it take your back to your youth, ksauers1?

Cheddite paper hulls have plastic bases. Gil