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Posted By: LRF A couple LeFever rifles that were interesting - 03/05/19 09:14 PM
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These went in an auction yesterday and I thought they were of interest and sold for a reasonable cost in my estimation
Somebody got quite a deal.
I'd say! The scope with the first rifle is work 600-750 on it's own.

Joe
I know where not to send my rifles to be sold. Littlejohns has lost a bit of its luster.
Originally Posted By: eightbore
I know where not to send my rifles to be sold. Littlejohns has lost a bit of its luster.


Certainly on those two but there was an M1 Garand that sold for $11K followed immediately by one that sold for $12.5K.
M1 $11K
M1 12.5K
Now they were very nice and were factory/government chambered for experimental 22-06 caliber but it was a surprise to me.
There was also a French Lebel military rifle that sold for $850....it had only been dropped once.....Just kidding smile
Perhaps you might consider posting them here, Bill-- for a double shotgun forum, there are many rifle collectors here-abouts- myself included.. RWTF
Holy Schmidt- wonder what my Korean Conflict Springfield Armory Garand M1-D sniper set-up with 10X scope in the "side-saddle" mount would have fetched, if I had turned it over to "Big-Bad'John's auction set-up-- Apparently John operates in CA- not exactly a "gun-owner-friendly State, so I hear tell--RWTF
I was looking at them again. The fancy checkering pattern is the kind of work the early German custom makers liked to do, and the Litschert scope ought to be early, 1940s or 1940s, but they both have those tacky white spacers typical of the 1950s, and the .257 Roberts Mauser is built on WWII Nazi-marked action. So the two rifles are quite puzzling. Spectacular wood.
Originally Posted By: Run With The Fox
Holy Schmidt- wonder what my Korean Conflict Springfield Armory Garand M1-D sniper set-up with 10X scope in the "side-saddle" mount would have fetched, if I had turned it over to "Big-Bad'John's auction set-up-- Apparently John operates in CA- not exactly a "gun-owner-friendly State, so I hear tell--RWTF

Actually there was a sniper M1 and I think its was a D and it went for under $4K if I remember right. I don't know how to look up finished auctions on proxybid so I am going of memory.
Originally Posted By: LRF

I don't know how to look up finished auctions on proxybid so I am going of memory.


It used to be much easier to look up completed auctions on the Proxibid site. Seems like every time the IT guys decide to change things on various auction sites, they manage to make it less user friendly.

For a recent auction, you would need to recall the item as it was originally listed. You'd type that into the Search Bar and Enter it. Current result in upcoming auctions come up first. Then you would have to go to "Search In" on the upper left part of the page, and select "Show archived items". Then you will have to scroll down the list and find the lot you are looking for. If it is a recent auction, it shouldn't be very far down the page. But finding an auction result that took place months ago can be very tedious. If you click on one item on say page 45 of archived auctions for Mausers, when you go back to look at another, you have to go back through many pages just to get back to where you left off. If they could assign an item number to each lot, doing a direct search would be much easier.
M1-D
Found the auction I was thinking about. What is interesting is that I also found a number of old auctions in which Garands sold for many many more thousands, I mean like $65K range and even higher. Oh my, I am not a Garand expert or amateur, just surprised.
Pretty amazing price, when to my knowledge the only 1" diameter scopes used in conjunction with M1 sniper rifles were the Kollmorgens used by the Marine Corps, and the only Weaver scopes used were the Model 330. The K series Weavers didn't come on the market until 1947.
Seems that if that Garand "sniper rifle" was purchased on site, thne someone should have had a close look at it before bidding? I'm not M1 expert either, but thought M1 sniper rifles were all based on NM marked rifles? I see no NM stamps on the action?
Originally Posted By: xausa
Pretty amazing price, when to my knowledge the only 1" diameter scopes used in conjunction with M1 sniper rifles were the Kollmorgens used by the Marine Corps, and the only Weaver scopes used were the Model 330. The K series Weavers didn't come on the market until 1947.

When were the D models available and used?
In WW11- in both TO's--the Springfield 1903 and the variant 1903-A-4 (mainly produced by Remington)-- were the principal .30 M-1 cal. sniper rifles- but as the war was winding down- a few M1-D Garands appeared- they saw greater usage in the Korean Conflict--

The biggest "problem" the armorers encountered was getting an accurate scope mounting on the Garand-which was never designed for a scope- (same thing for the 1903)--

My M-1D sniper rifle was a USMC issue in Korea- Springfield Armory production- star gauged barrel 10X scope (no-vari-power) and it has the muzzle "cone" flash suppressor.

A few years ago, son-in-law and yours truly were on a private 200 yard range-with the M-1D- when a "County Mounty" stopped by (most likely looking for guys with full "rock and roll AK-47's) and when he saw the M1-D-- with the flash suppressor, he told me I had an "illegal weapon"- with a silencer--

I told him to lay down on the ground, head under the front of the bench, and listen for the 'silence" when I touched off a round--

He declined, turned out he was never in military service-- but I guess he believed me-- My M-1D is close to a MOA weapon with 172 grain Ball ammo-- but the trigger pull is nothing like you would find on a "tuned" 1903- IMO!!
For those of you interested in learning more about M1-C's and M1-D's
you may find this article interesting

American Rifleman article

I've enjoyed these videos from "Forgotten Weapons"

M1-D

M1-C
and here is an article about National Match M-1's

American Rifleman M-1 National Match Article
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