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Info on old W.R. Pape #282377 06/23/12 07:39 PM
Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 72 Likes: 4 Oberndorf OP Sidelock
OP Oberndorf Sidelock Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 72 Likes: 4	Looking for info on an old Pape 12ga. Its a large action with 3 inch chambers. Barrels are 30.5" long and 3/4 choked. The gun weighs 8lbs. Is Newcastle-On-Tyne considered a Birmingham gun. The proof-marks are Birmingham. There is SUP with 2 crowns over it, 12-76 and also 850 Bar. There is also a R with some symbol over it. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks. Last edited by Oberndorf; 06/23/12 08:46 PM.

Re: Info on old W.R. Pape Oberndorf #282381 06/23/12 08:17 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 517 mid-america GJZ Sidelock
GJZ Sidelock Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 517 mid-america	Handsome gun.

Re: Info on old W.R. Pape Oberndorf #282388 06/23/12 08:54 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 496 Undisclosed Kensal Rise Sidelock
Kensal Rise Sidelock Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 496 Undisclosed	this is a very nice Pape, proved for 3-inch cartridges. The action was probably sourced from Scott's in Birmingham. But strictly, Newcastle-upon-Tyne is not considered Birmingham... even though Pape may well have had the gun built there.

Re: Info on old W.R. Pape Oberndorf #282393 06/23/12 10:05 PM
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,859 Currently Arizona Rockdoc Sidelock
Rockdoc Sidelock Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,859 Currently Arizona	Beautiful gun, but handsome describes it perfectly. Approach life like you do a yellow light - RUN IT! (Gail T.)

Re: Info on old W.R. Pape Oberndorf #282466 06/24/12 09:22 PM
Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 72 Likes: 4 Oberndorf OP Sidelock
OP Oberndorf Sidelock Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 72 Likes: 4	Thanks everyone. Since it has 3" chambers I am assuming it must be a water-fowling or live pigeon gun.

Re: Info on old W.R. Pape Oberndorf #282532 06/25/12 03:32 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,553 NH Franc Otte Sidelock
Franc Otte Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,553 NH	Yes Sir, that is a very pretty shotgun....sweet.. Franc

Re: Info on old W.R. Pape Oberndorf #282585 06/26/12 03:36 AM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 625 Likes: 1 England. Harry Eales Sidelock
Harry Eales Sidelock Joined: May 2006 Posts: 625 Likes: 1 England.	Oberndorf, Pape did manufacture shotguns from scratch, for many years, he had his own workshops in Newcastle upon Tyne in Collingwood Street, his retailing Shop was in Westgate Road, some 250 yards away. If you can let me have the serial number (by PM if you wish) I should be able to give you a year of manufacture or sale. Birmingham was the nearest Proof House to Newcastle upon Tyne so it was logical that Papes guns were sent there for proofing. Harry Last edited by Harry Eales; 06/26/12 03:42 AM. Biology is the only science where multiplication can be achieved by division.

Re: Info on old W.R. Pape Oberndorf #282586 06/26/12 03:37 AM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 602 Victoria, Australia cadet Sidelock
cadet Sidelock Joined: May 2007 Posts: 602 Victoria, Australia	They sound like much newer proof marks than the gun looks - unless they're newer barrels, or a later re-proof... I'd tend to think pigeon gun, rather than 'fowler - looking that ornate and highly finished. What's the rest of the gun look like? Rounded grip? Heavier weight? It is, indeed, a very handsome gun. RG

Re: Info on old W.R. Pape Oberndorf #282591 06/26/12 07:34 AM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL PeteM Sidelock
PeteM Sidelock Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL	Here is some history and serial number list: http://www.wrpape.co.uk/4.html Pete http://www.damascus-barrels.com/Movie.html

Re: Info on old W.R. Pape Oberndorf #282615 06/26/12 11:36 AM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,737 Indian Orchard Massachusetts Krakow Kid Sidelock
Krakow Kid Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,737 Indian Orchard Massachusetts	Very nice! I wish Tony were around to see it, given his soft spot for Pape guns.

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