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No safe queen, but I see a sound gun that has been neglected, but not badly abused, and has a lot of potential. Many of the pins and screw heads look untouched and the few screw slots that are buggered aren't terrible. The wood isn't broken and the stock is uncut. Some pics make it look oil soaked and some not so much. I'd be delighted to find something like this from what I see so far. Definitely worth saving, and I don't think it will end up being a money pit. The sight beads are in a slightly different position, so hopefully that isn't an indication that a barrel has been shortened.

Thanks for everyone's help and information provided so far. I disagree that this gun is far from gone, especially one this rare and unique. Yes it's worn and has been used as it was made to do. Will it look like it did when it left the factory? No. But I have seen others in much worse shape than this brought back to life to be enjoyed again as it was built to do. I have no doubt that this gun can be and will be more than worth the cost to give it life again.

BTW: this may be what is left after barrel finishing of the fused 'JP' of J. Pire & Cie, a large munitions firm established in Liege in 1885, or rough forged tube maker Jules Pirard-Ancion or Jacques Pirotte & Fils.

I agree that this gun can be saved and is well worth saving. Here's some excellent advice from the original Thread on this Remington:



Unfortunately, there are a lot of gunsmiths out there who could make this gun worse. Careful consideration is needed. I hope you'll keep us posted.

If this was asked I missed it. What is the internal condition of the barrels?
Jim

John,
I guess I see the potential....if it was mine it would get a sympathetic restoration. A trip through the ultra-sonic cleaner first, some gentle cleaning of both wood and metal and then decide. It really does not look that bad to me. I take them in to the shop in far worse condition fairly often. That gun might end up looking pretty nice with a bit of elbow grease. The only thing that looks to have deep corrosion is the heel plate.
Steve

I'm in the process of trying to get the pictures of the inside of the barrels. I will have Canvasback post them when I get them

You guys are a lot more optimistic about this gun than I am.

The wood is badly shrunken away from the metal everywhere, or perhaps sanded away in an old refinish. Proud metal is bad news.

The checkering would require a magician to bring back. The gap where the forend iron meets the receiver suggests a lot of bad wear, near ramshackle.

I don't know how you fix all that, but some things aren't fixable. If the bores are cratered, well...
JR

I think the wood is fine for the most part, maybe cracked internally at the head but not beneath the metal in the vast majority of places. I would first clean that checkering and most likely leave it alone. The stock the same, you would be shocked what a good cleaning can reveal. The fore end gap could be caused by several things but the most likely scenario is that the lugged popped loose and was not set in the proper place, an easy fix. If it is wear that is an easy repair as well. The bores are a different matter, there is only so much that can be cleaned up in regards to pitting. These old American doubles often had thick walls and that sure does help. I would not attempt to make this gun look new, just clean it up a bit.

Nice old Remington. Thank goodness I don't own it!...Geo