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"But walking with a cocked hammerless is OK?

How could you possibly infer this?"

I do not infer it, it is what most people do, they carry a cocked hammerless with the safety on, thinking that the mere blocking of the trigger via the safety protects them from an accidental discharge. So walking with a cocked hammerless on safe is not OK by my recknoning. Hence the question mark at the end of the sentence.

I designed and made via 3D printing a plastic prototype inboard hammer SXS. It was posted here some years ago. The hammers being close together they allow easy simultaneous cocking with a pass of the thumb. But..... the quoted price for CNC machining the action stopped that idea.

greener4me: I've not heard the comparison of cocking a back-action lock to a bar-action lock before this. Is this well-established or is this something you've observed over time? If the bar-lock guns do provide a significant advantage here I may have to revise my search.

Personal experience . 4, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 20 .....

Ok, that's quite a range of gauges. Was that across several makers or mostly English and then Greener guns?

How about the comparison mentioned earlier here, between rebounding and non-rebounding locks? Also, how about the theory about hammer strength being a function of holding a fired cap on a caplock in place?

I started shooting muzzle loaders in the mid seventy's and my first SXS was a cheap European import in 20 gauge. The hammers were quite stiff and difficult to cock at the same time. I learned to hunt with my thumb on the left hammer and cock it as the bunnies bolted, then I could cock the right hammer as I was mounting the gun.....LK

I've owned hammer guns in 10 (A. Hollis), 12 (V. Bernardelli, now sold, and Charles Moore), 16 (Austrian guild), 20 (V. Bernardelli) and 28 (SIACE). The only one which I could consistently cock both hammers on was the 12 gauge Bernardelli and I could do so even on a skeet field shooting station 8 (we occasionally shoot doubles on 8 at my club for giggles - inbound first, then outbound). The others all have heavy enough springs that cocking both hammers is an issue, at least for me. The SIACE is the only one of the bunch with a safety, but I prefer to use it as a traditional hammer gun rather than carrying it cocked in the field. I'm not fast enough to even consider grouse or woodcock with a hammer gun, but the Moore over pointing dogs for pheasants is about my favorite form of upland hunting. The Hollis will someday see a goose blind (with bismuth), but for the time being it shoots skeet with 1-1/8 ounce handloads.

Hammer shotguns have a special place in my heart. The first shotgun I bought was a hammer sxs 16ga. I still do most of m hunting with one.

I was shooting this 16ga drilling and found a couple of 2.5" NP BB loads in the van so took it coyote hunting, no ammo for the rifle barrel along but called this one int 40 yards


Ducks and geese with 7/8 oz of ITX 6's in my Husky 51




They aren't fancy but are a pleasure to hunt with.

My first hammer shotgun circa 1965, I killed a lot of grouse, woodcock, pheasants, rabbits and ducks back in WI with this guy.

Oskar, what make is your drilling and what is the caliber of the rifle barrel? I shoot a J.P. Sauer hammer drilling, rifle barrel 11.15X65, shotgun double 16. I also shoot 2 1/2" .410s in the rifle barrel. They are a perfect fit and makes my Sauer a 3 shooter when hunting birds.

Shotgun lover, Yes there is an inherent danger in a hammerless gun which has a safety that blocks the triggers. Maybe not much, but some. Baker Gun and Forging Co. introduced its Firing Pin Safety Block that would block the hammer from hitting the firing pin unless the triggers were pulled. They used this as advertising in their Baker guns. I don’t recall another American maker that employed such a system. I do recall an N R Davis ad that said it had a gun that Blocks the Sears.

That one is a 9.3x72R my other hammerless ones are 6.5x58R Sauer and 7x57R all 16s.