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#635373 09/10/23 06:56 PM
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so I just bought a crap ton of old once fired 12 gauge paper hulls. About 1000 are Federals which I know about. Most are Western or Winchester Super target (which I assume are the same hull) supposedly from the Grand back in the 60's. Then there are some Remington Shure Shot and Canuck Trap & Grand marked Hulls too.
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can I use Federal Paper data for these assuming low pressure?
Do they all take 209 primers or do I need old 109 Remington primers?
I think I have about 7000 total
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The quick answer is weed out the Federals and throw the rest into the incinerator.

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I have loaded thousands of the Winchester Super Target hulls with PB
Started using the Lee Hand Loader and moved up

All the hulls you mentioned take the 209 primer, except the Rem hulls

Is the 7000 total, hulls or Rem *57 primers
I only have 5000 of the *57 primers left
Mike

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its 7000 hulls plus whatever I already had.
I dont know if I have any 57 primers still or not as I have been using them in a 209 primer pistol for dog training
Thanks I should have old data around but would rather use a plastic wad rather than cork & felt. I do have a few pounds of PB

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So, not to be disrespectful, but I am trying to figure out why you guys like/use paper hulls. I see gobs of them in the trash cans out at the club, and I can't understand why you guys prefer them over plastic hulls so much. Do plastic hulls mess up your guns ? Can somebody educate me on this? Thanks.

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Jimmy, those that like them do so for the same reason we like double guns, SXS. Nothing practical; just adherence to tradition. Gil

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Originally Posted by GLS
Jimmy, those that like them do so for the same reason we like double guns, SXS. Nothing practical; just adherence to tradition. Gil
Okay. I see. I thought maybe the plastic hulls would mess up the damascus barrels or the older guns or something. So you guys prefer the Federal paper hulls, huh? That's great. Thanks for the information. I appreciate it.

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There are alot a really good plastic handled knives out there and quite a few black plastic guns... Style counts for a lot!

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Jimmy W,

IT IS THE SMELL smile

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To those of us with some years on us, nothing smells better than a freshly fired Federal paper. When I started trap shooting back in the 1960s at the old Seattle Skeet & Trap Cub at Redmond, WA, the fields would be littered with once fired Winchester, Western, Remington & Peters hulls, but if a Federal was on the ground it had burned through pin holes from being reloaded three or four times. The load most popular was 23-grains of Red Dot, a nitro card, two Alcan Felton Blue Streak wads pushing 1 1/8-ounce of shot.

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