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Ted, I’m well aware of the Patriot Act and its effects. Just as I’m well aware of the idiots running the show up here. But none of that negates my point. Which is that to combat that shit you need long term activism. Not simply a different political or leader for the next 4 year cycle.

You can complain or make excuses as to why one can’t or it’s too hard or they are too well entrenched. But what I am saying is the way you start to take back society. You think you have it tough now? Imagine being a gay trans guy in the 1960s in the Deep South. You don’t think the entire forces of government and culture were arrayed against him? Now look where we are today?

You need activists who won’t shut up publicizing the evils of the Patriot Act. And 30 other issues. The Tea Party got shut down. It needs to start up again. And 50 more organizations like it. Either that or quit complaining and accept defeat.

It starts with intellectuals who write books and essays that call out the ills. And explains why they are dangerous. And that convince people that it’s worth their time, their money and their energy to fit against it. You know, like Greenpeace protesting against nuclear proliferation. Or the nut bars who spike trees to stop old growth deforestation. Or a thousand other examples.

I probably shouldn't bother, but I wish to respond to two very recent posts made in this Thread by JimmyW, that have since been deleted.

JimmyW twice stated that I couldn't read his "fifth grade graph" that he and Al Gore have used to show a direct correlation between CO2 levels and global average temperatures. I specifically pointed out to Jimmy that his precious "fifth grade graph" showed several times where CO2 levels were elevated or still rising, yet average global temperatures dropped or did not increase.


We see this happening about 520,00 years ago, 210,000 years ago, and about 100,000 years ago where temperature dropped before CO2 levels. But you have to actually study the graph closely. However, we really see this easily at the present time. The "fifth grade graph" clearly shows CO2 levels much higher than any point in history, yet there are four periods where global average temperatures were higher than they are at the present time. We should be experiencing the highest average global temperatures at any point in the last 600,000 years... but we're not. Also, there was no appreciable man made CO2 in those earlier times. Much of it came from volcanoes. So the recent story that CO2 from volcanoes is dwarfed by man-caused CO2 is another apparent misstatement of fact. A small child could see this. Whether Al Gore's "fifth grade graph" is at all accurate is another story.

Then Jimmy stated twice that I had claimed NASA lied. I never once mentioned NASA anywhere in this Thread. I did mention the disturbing fact that NOAA (not NASA) was using atmospheric CO2 monitoring data from on top of an active volcano. That is not a place where anyone except agenda driven scientists would go to get accurate and truthful data on average global CO2 levels.

So it appears that the reason JimmyW feels I can't comprehend his and Al Gore's "fifth grade graph" is because Jimmy is obviously reading the "fifth grade graph" (and my posts) at a kindergarten level.

Then, in the now deleted post Jimmy made this morning, he was gloating that I was wrong about the fact that Kyle Rittenhouse's name was released almost immediately after he was involved in a self-defense shooting during the Minneapolis BLM Riots, but the names of the Kansas City post- Super Bowl shooters were not released. Jimmy mocked me for posting incorrect information that he said had been released five days ago. However, when I checked, the names of the Kansas City shooters had not been released until sometime on Feb. 20th. Sources like Newsweek and The New York post were still reporting that their names had not been released early in the day on Feb. 20th.

I could find no source that stated the names of the K.C. shooters were released five days ago. So why would JimmyW make that apparently untruthful statement?

The fact remains that Kyle Rittenhouse's name (and photo) had been released almost immediately by the Liberal Press and the Liberal D.A., even though he was under 18, but they did not release the same information about the K.C. shooters until almost a week after the shooting, when they were charged as adults. Three days ago, on Feb. 20th, the Kansas City Star was complaining about how few details had been released compared to other juvenile criminals. And we still have not seen their photos, for obvious reasons.

It is disturbing that JimmyW made at least two posts where he was extremely critical of me, and then deleted that false information without so much as an apology. I'm sure he isn't sorry, and still thinks everything he said was right. His Trump bashing videos tell us all we need to know about who he supports. I thought I knew all I needed to know about him and his religious fervor for believing climate propaganda from the Liberal Left, but now I know much more. We also will never see any complaints from Liberals here that JimmyW is posting under a fake screen name. "Jimmy" is another Liberal who needs to stop sending me PM's. There is no need for me to privately engage with Liberals who can't even read a "fifth grade graph".

The Republicans dropped the ball with the tea party,they didn't stand up for them until it was to late.

Keep a low profile, stay off the beaten track, never put anything in writing you don't want used against you, be careful what you say on the cell phone, talk in public like an NFL coach with a playbook in front of your mouth, lay out your defensive perimeter, heed Sun Tzu, and make sure you have the appropriate tools to get the job done. These are prudent life rules to follow anytime, not just now. Wolverines.

Throw sand in the machine every chance you get.

Best,
Ted

Yes.

Your point is too idealistic, and is not grounded in today's reality. But, and this is hugely important, does any of your long term activism theory negate other's points?

I think it's time for you to show, when has law enforcement, administrative branch of government in the form of prosecutors, or judicial branch activism, ever gone after, harmed, left wing social agenda activism? I think it's wrong for you to frame right wing activism in terms of laziness to resist, time, money and energy inconveniences. Wisconsin comes to mind when state republican party members, activists if you will, faced leo forcible home searches and seizures of property. The half billion ruling against Trump with no victim, or the Georgia election shenanigans against Trump. Well, you know there are many examples.

That’s easy Craig. Think law enforcement in the Deep South in the 1960s. Those guys were not on board with what the liberals from Washington and the judiciary were trying to force on them.

Or how about the union busting that went on for the first half of the last century.

I wonder if this wolf thing is even going to work (I'm not for it). Some people think (thought?) it was almost inevitable, with them being in Wyoming. Maybee. But...Wildlife anciencies are historically awful at reintroductions.

The Isle Royale wolf things is a laughable wreck. Those wolves swim back to Canada. For the love of poutine.

I'd hoped to see a wolf there, way back, but it wasn't to be. A friend and I did a short walk from the canoe, and came up on a large, shallow bay. It was covered with three to four foot Northerns, just sunning themselves, they looked dead. I tossed a small stone at one, and it shot away like it was out of a rifle. All we had was light fishing gear with us, but it might have been fun to go back for the boat and slip into the mouth of that bay.