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Sounds like a great time ahead!
Get some more images of his little rifle, and of his cartridges too if you get the chance. It'd be nice to see the efforts of another 'extreme handloading' enthusiast.
Cheers Tinker
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Tinker, if you have Boothroyd's book The Shotgun History and Development look on page 181 Pinfires are Fun and the person referred to as the 'inventor' of the system to make modern pin-fire cartridge reloads is the friend in question who I will be seeing on Sunday. Lagopus.....
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Lagopus-
I don't have that book, it appears as if there's no digitized/searchable copy in the web either. If you can scan that page and post it to this thread it would be great.
I do however have quite a few examples of 19th century text on the development of the metallic cartridge noting with illustrations a few variations on the pinfire system.
There was a guy here in the US who pulled a patent on the pinfire cartridge -- very recently. I think he had dreams of making money on the fantasy of a 'pinfire revival' - but the effort seems to have fizzled. I've found that each gun and rifle I've had across my hands had it's own unique features - enough to the effect that in 'my perfect world' the cases and expendables for each have ended up being unique to each gun or rifle.
Is the invention you speak of the machined brass cases I've seen on the web featuring wooden toothpicks as support for the over-shot card, and the clever little threaded doo-hicky primer-pocket? If so, it appears he's having fun with his pistol and shotgun ammunition endeavor. I wish him good success and welcome him out this way with one of his rifles. I'd be happy to get him out in our northern coastal timber for a couple days of deer-stalking. If getting one of his rifles out here to the states would be too much trouble, I'd let him on to my Mahillon 16-bore or my Purdey 20-bore for the affair. They're both excellent running examples of the high grade light pinfire bore-rifle.
I'm sure we'd 'have a blast'!
Cheers Tinker
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Interesting bunch of old equipment! Thank you all for sharing them with us.
> Jim Legg <
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Tinker, he removes the metal rim from a compression formed plastic case and then inserts a brass primer holder that slides into the old primer pocket, this holds a primer at 90 degrees and then a small hole is drilled in the case to accept the pin. Simple, and the case is thrown away after use and the insert is pushed out to be used again. Contact me by e-mail at Maandeabaines@btinternet.com and I will post you a photo copy. I will see if I can get one of the brass inserts too. Lagopus.....
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I have a bunch of old reloading equipment. If there is an interest I will post some of the rarer ones. Still looking for a bullet mold for a 450 BPE.
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Hello Older Doc YES!!! Post those pictures !!
Now tell me what you want in a 450 BPE bullet mould? Are you talking about the 3 1/4 inch BPE? I show grain weights from 270 to 365. The bullet diameter .458? Gas check or not? You wanting a vintage bullet mould or a working bullet mould?
Thanks Mike
USAF RET 1971-95
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Sorry for dragging this but here tis as promised. What is IT? [img] [/img]
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I think my friend Ralph Finch found the patent on those, meaning the whirlygig thrower. Drop him an email with picture attached to:
rfinch@twmi.rr.com
He's the Target Ball King, publishes a really fun newsletter/magazine about them a few times a year. But he's also a great source of lore about other non-alive shotgun target sports and even knows quite a bit about pigeon shooting.
All this from a man who's really a glass collector and hasn't picked up a firearm in his whole life except in the military.
Destry
Last edited by MarketHunter; 05/20/09 05:08 PM.
Out there at the crossroads molding the devil's bullets. - Tom Waits
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