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#161392 09/18/09 11:51 AM
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One or two liked the style of the Fuller gun that I pictured the other day so I took this one from the cabinet a another example of a gun with a pleasing line to it.





This 12 bore has 30 inch damascus barrels and non-rebounding backlocks. It is proofed for black powder and was made sometime in the mid 1860's. It is not a pin-fire conversion. The Makers are still in business but sadly no records exsist for the period in which this gun was made. Note the grip safety. I do take it out and use it occasionally as it is just one of those guns that handles like a thoroughbred. Lagopus.....

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Beautiful old gun. Very elegant.
Does that stock have a little belly to it? or is the bottom line completely straight? I'm collecting stock pics with a little belly to them for a stocking project.


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I have just had it out of the gun cabinet to take a look. It appears to be straight and having put a level edge to it to confirm. I think that it might be a trick of the light in the photo. Lagopus.....

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Originally Posted By: ClapperZapper
Beautiful old gun. Very elegant.
Does that stock have a little belly to it? or is the bottom line completely straight? I'm collecting stock pics with a little belly to them for a stocking project.


Commonly called "Perch Belly".........


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I was avoiding saying that.
Only because the slight curve I'm laying out bears no resemblence to the goiterous appendages some Beretta's come infected with.
I'm trying to quantify an ellipse that while only an eighth, or quarter of an inch, can seem elegant, or disgusting, depending on the tangents.
If I scale enough drawings, then where the crest of the ellipse is can be located in it's most beautiful position. At least to my eye anyway.
Some straight hand stocks look like they were designed with chainsaws in mind. Some just look too sharp in profile.
Over the years I have found I am less attracted to perfectly straight lines. They look mechanical.


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Well you certainly have good taste in guns. I particularly like the browning to the barrels. Original?
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PA24, Doug,
I am not wishing to be pedantic, but I think the term used is "Roach Belly" and this can regularly be seen on Browning Superposed's.

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PA24, Doug,
I am not wishing to be pedantic, but I think the term used is "Roach Belly" and this can regularly be seen on Browning Superposed's.


I've never heard that term used before in the last 50 years of gunning....possibly in the Eastern U.S.A....?......'Fish Belly' and 'Perch Belly' yes, but not your bug reference...........but thank you anyway.....


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Different country... different fish... different bellies


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I think Roaches are small rough/coarse fish that the common folk of Britain are reduced to catching for sport. There are contests for them. They are small, nasty looking, and a waste eater. Actually, a perfect descriptor for the bottom line of an ugly shotgun stock.

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