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#187555 - 05/02/10 07:43 AM K.F.C. / Kawaguchiya Firearms Company / Hibiki Co.
stainless Offline
Boxlock

Registered: 05/01/10
Posts: 3
I just aquired a Kawaguchiya Firearms Company double barrel, 12 ga. side-by-side shotgun. I found K.F.C. listed in the Blue Book, but nothing on a SxS. This particular gun has amazing detailed scrolling engraving...even the screwheads are detailed! It has Kawaguchiya Tokyo on top between the barrels, and Hibiki Co. on the sides. It has a 4 digit serial # 30XX, and when you break it down it is stamped again with the serial #, along with 1955...possibly the mfg. date? It has a unique safety, located in the left side of the stock. The closest thing I have been able to find on the internet is a picture on the link below as "No. 19". almost at the bottom of the page. Anyone have any info on this? I can take some pictures of it.

http://members.shaw.ca/tju/muratashotgunpix.htm

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#187558 - 05/02/10 08:27 AM Re: K.F.C. / Kawaguchiya Firearms Company / Hibiki Co. [Re: stainless]
Ron Vella Offline
Sidelock
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Registered: 01/13/02
Posts: 606
Loc: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada
I have an original catalogue by KFC from the 1950's, in my files. As soon as I get a few minutes I'll dig it out and post what I find re your S x S.

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#187574 - 05/02/10 12:37 PM Re: K.F.C. / Kawaguchiya Firearms Company / Hibiki Co. [Re: Ron Vella]
Ron Vella Offline
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Registered: 01/13/02
Posts: 606
Loc: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada
There are three side by side guns in the brochure that I have. All three are Anson & Deeley type boxlocks. In ascending order of quality they are:

Model M-(Standard)
Model ME(with Automatic Ejector)
Straight-back action, 28" or 30" barrels, right-Imp. or half, left-full,double trggers, auto safety, available with straight-hand grip, full pistol grip, or semi pistol grip. two under-bites only, no third fastener. Case-coloured action. Each model with push-down fore end, carefully checkered, select walnut. Weight 12 gauge-6 1/2 lbs, 16 gauge-6 lbs, 20 gauge-5 3/4 lbs.

Model L-(Standard)
Model L II-(with matted rib)
Straight-backed action, about 50/60 % engraving, 28" or 30" barrels, Right-Imp. or half, Left-Full, double triggers, auto safety. Triple lock, two underbites and an exposed third fastener similar to a Stevens 311. Straight-hand grip, or pistol grip, or semi-pistol grip, Model L with Greener type lock fore end. Model L II with push-down fore end. Carefully checkered, select walnut. Weight 12 gauge-6 1/2 lbs, 16 gauge-6 lbs, 20 gauge-5 3/4 lbs.

Model KE- with automatic ejectors. fancy scallopped-back action, 100% engraving coverage. This MAY be a round action, it's difficult to be certain from the photo. 28" or 30 " barrels. Right-Imp. or Half, Left-Full. Auto safety. Triple lock with double underbites and a Purdey-style hidden third fastener. Straight-hand grip, or pistol grip, or semi-pistol grip. Push-down fore end, carefully checkered, select walnut.
Weight 12 gauge-6 1/2 lbs, 16 gauge-6 lbs, 20 gauge-5 3/4 lbs.

I see no evidence in any of the three photos of a mono-block seam so I would assume that they are chopper lump barrels.

I hope that this may help you to identify what you have.

Best,
Ron.

PS: I just re-read your post and note your remarks about the safety which I assume is a Greener type. All three of the guns in my brochure have the standard sliding safety located on the top tang, no Greener-type is shown in this catalogue.





Edited by Ron Vella (05/02/10 12:44 PM)

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#187576 - 05/02/10 01:09 PM Re: K.F.C. / Kawaguchiya Firearms Company / Hibiki Co. [Re: Ron Vella]
Steve Helsley Online   content
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Registered: 10/12/09
Posts: 366
I have an 'orphaned' set of ejector Bayard/KFC barrels (with forend. They are 12-g, 27.5 inches with full and IC chokes. The serial number is 3679 and the Belgian proof marks suggest that they were made no later than 1924.

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#187603 - 05/02/10 05:52 PM Re: K.F.C. / Kawaguchiya Firearms Company / Hibiki Co. [Re: Steve Helsley]
L. Brown Offline
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Registered: 01/01/02
Posts: 10451
Loc: Iowa
Interesting this should come up twice today! (See the above thread on Miroku 28ga.)

Ron, as I indicated in the above thread, I had a KFC marked Miroku Model M (without ejectors) and currently have a KFC marked Hibiki Model M (with ejectors). Otherwise identical guns. Barrels are indeed chopper lump.

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#187605 - 05/02/10 06:33 PM Re: K.F.C. / Kawaguchiya Firearms Company / Hibiki Co. [Re: L. Brown]
Terry Lubzinski Online   content
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Registered: 01/06/02
Posts: 865
Loc: Vancouver,British Columbia
From all the info and reviews I have read over the years,
this product is "finger lickin' good" smile
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Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought stupid,than open it and confirm.

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#216734 - 02/08/11 09:40 PM Re: K.F.C. / Kawaguchiya Firearms Company / Hibiki Co. [Re: stainless]
stainless Offline
Boxlock

Registered: 05/01/10
Posts: 3
Can someone tell me if I can post pictures of this gun on here?

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#216737 - 02/08/11 09:54 PM Re: K.F.C. / Kawaguchiya Firearms Company / Hibiki Co. [Re: stainless]
skeettx Offline
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Registered: 06/03/08
Posts: 4370
Loc: Amarillo, Texas
Yes
You should be able to use one of the photo hosts like Hunt101 and enter the url provided
Mike
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