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Originally Posted By: GLS
A buddy has two Labradoodles from Australia. They are pretty much 50 lb. lap dogs and are great housedogs, but in fairness to him and the dogs, that's all he wants. He has not tried to field train them although Billy has had a lifetime of duck dogs. One feature of them is no shedding and they are hypoallergenic.


Lily is larger than either parent and at 84#'s is at the top of the range in weight for a standard Doodle and 'lap dog' pretty much describes her except she won't fit in your lap!
My wife and I both independently saw the same PBS program on these dogs that was about a families need for a hypoallergenic breed.
The reason they don't shed is because like a poodle, the hair stays in the coat and must be removed periodically by brushing or it will mat over time requiring shaving the the dog. I have a complete set of professional dog grooming tools to handle Lily and its a chore. Usually by the time winter is over she is trimmed in May with another trimming in July for the hot weather. Brushing is constant.
The breed is not completely hypoallergenic as the saliva can be irritating as with any dog if you are sensitive. I think that she has been conditioned to not lick people, strange behavior in a dog. But it is the closest one can find to a hypoallergenic dog. I really don't think the breed or a cross is a hunting dog, for that I would agree that a recognized breed or dog from a breeder that has already demonstrated hunting traits would be much better choice.-Dick

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Originally Posted By: Dick_dup1
[quote=GLS] ... I really don't think the breed or a cross is a hunting dog, for that I would agree that a recognized breed or dog from a breeder that has already demonstrated hunting traits would be much better choice.-Dick


Dick,
Nevertheless, they are good companions, and that is the overwelming reason to own a dog, hunting dog or not. I only get maybe 20 days a year to hunt. If hunting was the only use I had for dogs, I'd rent a dog and handler. It certainly would be cheaper per year. My biggest fear in buying an english pointer was that it wouldn't be a good companion, given all the stories about them being aloof and independent, etc.. This new one has developed a strong bond with my wife and I and the lab, and is as affectionate and dependent as my lab, maybe more so.

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Originally Posted By: buzz
IMO intelligent dogs will move in in tight cover and move out in the open.


Let's hope he got a dumb one because what little I've saw of Kansas is all open and open and open.

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Originally Posted By: Chuck H
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Thanks, got the Garmin before I got the dog. The collar unit was defective and giving erroneous positions by a lot, then finally died. The outfit I bought from was absolutely committed to supporting me and sent a new unit with no more than a single email about what happened. Steve Snell's Gundog Supply is the best. They have my business for everything I need for dogs now. I'm a fan of theirs.

Chuck: Yes, Steve Snell is very good and Lion Country is lickity split with their service too. Both are great for the hunter and 'dog man'.


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Kansas, at least SW Kansas down by OK is VERY open: you gotta be able to "reach out and touch someone" at longer ranges than I was prepared for when I hunted there in '07.

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My recollection of NW Kansas was that it was pretty flat and not much of anything higher than a cornstalk.

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Originally Posted By: Mike A.
Kansas, at least SW Kansas down by OK is VERY open: you gotta be able to "reach out and touch someone" at longer ranges than I was prepared for when I hunted there in '07.


I've heard stories of folks taking their pointers to SW Kansas and have their hearts hit their throats when their big runners not used to a treeless horizon took off for the earth's end. The dogs weren't wearing "hearing aids". They did come back with their dogs. wink I second that about Steve Snell. You can scratch around and save a few bucks, but you can't get the same service that he offers.

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