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Doverham #264481 02/07/12 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted By: Doverham
UK gun inspection

Interesting story/tale of woe from somewhere without a Second Amendment


This kind of situation is precisely why I endure the criticism and disbelief from those on here who maintain we don't have to remain constantly vigilent of attacks upon our 2nd Amendment rights. I had to explain to someone on another forum why obtaining a Curio & Relic license was a waste of time in New Jersy as the whole State is under Socialist control and the won't honor it. This situation in that State I am told is the primary reason SARCO'S pulled up and moved out.
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So a guy breaks his Merkel forend and a derelict dealer makes him waste 2 years and roughly USD1200?

He didn't say the cops broke it. And if he allows some "knob" to rip him off moneywise and timewise I don't see what it has to do with the 2A. And now he whines about having to relearn use of a double trigger. Sounds like a pussy.

It could just as easily be blamed on driving on the left side of the road.

And New Jersey a Socialist state?

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From my perspective, the alarming part was the requirement to break all the guns down and account for all the parts and SNs.


Such a long, long time to be gone, and a short time to be there.
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Well...NJ does tax the hell out its citizens...but the public schools are reportedly good

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"He didn't say the cops broke it. And if he allows some "knob" to rip him off moneywise and timewise I don't see what it has to do with the 2A. And now he whines about having to relearn use of a double trigger. Sounds like a pussy."

Ok I'll go real slow for you here. This happened due to the lack of a 2nd Amendment, to protect firearms owners, and the oppressive laws in GB that forced the guy to disassemble his shotgun for an inspection in the 1st place. That's how the forend was broken and led to the 2 year replacement saga.
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Originally Posted By: Doverham
From my perspective, the alarming part was the requirement to break all the guns down and account for all the parts and SNs.


Very true if it was happening here. Then I'd be alarmed too. However it is going on in a foreign sovereign nation and is no concern of mine except when I shoot in the UK.

Since it ain't happening here I have more pressing things to be alarmed about.

Suppose the guy broke his forend when he was dissembling his gun to take it on an airplane? Would that have been the airlines fault?

I am not defending UK gun laws - they are stupid. Read the recent "Shooting Times" articles on how miserably the police perform in doing their licensing duties. The whole system is broken.

But I'll reserve my indignation for events over here, not there.

Besides the guy sounds like a twit.

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New Jersey is the sixth wealthiest state:

http://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/tag/distribution-of-wealth-by-state/

so I guess that Socialism works. wink

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Originally Posted By: italiansxs
This kind of situation is precisely why I endure the criticism and disbelief from those on here who maintain we don't have to remain constantly vigilent of attacks upon our 2nd Amendment rights.


Jim with all due respect most here are members of the NRA, certainly internet literate and capable of navigating to the news sources on the web.

Paul Revere was the designated courier to signal the alarm and was there first with the information. There are many parallel paths for the information and point of view you post here.

And no one is keeping you from posting that subject on this BBS. We just want you to follow the rules and post it in the proper section of the BBS.

I posted a thread marked off-topic on this forum to get help selecting rifle ammunition for my son's deer hunt. It was moved to the rifle section. I am certain someone requested Dave to move it but so what? They were just asking him to keep order and enforce the rules posted at the top of the index.

I write many replies that are never posted. After considering things a few minutes I often decide that the ill-will the post will cause is not worth making the point. When you posted against live pigeon shooting on a thread about a clays game it was obvious you hadn't bothered to read the thread or taken time to reconsider the issue or other people. I believe you read the subject line on the index, punched down to the last page and pushed the "Reply" button and started typing. The tendency to reflexive reaction frequently turns out to be counter-productive to converting others to one's point of view. It also causes people to tend to look at the rest of such authors' posts with a skeptical eye.

This is a forum for gun owners and it is about firearms. We are all zealots here. We are vigilant. And we will be even if you are required to follow the rules and post about this subject in another section.

Which is supposed to be what this thread is about.


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Mike



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Mike:
I will PM you on pigeons.
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I had no problem with the original posting here. And I have no problem with Dave moving it when someone apparently asked for rule compliance. I don't think this tempest in a teapot has much to do with vigilance about defending our rights.

Mike's right about this membership and this thread. (I've been an NRA member for 30 years.) I hoped it would die a few pages back, no one gained from it continuing, nor do I expect any value add from my post here. Except I really hope this gets me the last word. smile

Jay

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