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Has anyone received one yet?
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I don't think you are going to get much information about "Yup, I got mine." for awhile. According to Adam and Lou at the Southern, the initial 500 orders are up in the high threes at this time and interest is high. No real promises are being made for delivery times. Of course, I didn't ask. I just wrote the check.
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Talked with Lou yesterday. Obviously not guarantee, but he was guessing "about 8 months - parts are being made now"
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Are you guys thinking 30" barrels? Or 28"
Straight or pistol grip stock?
Upgrade wood or not?
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I haven't seen mention of Rizzini's name in CSMC advertising, but I'm pretty sure that's the origin...not that that's a bad thing. I believe their 'round body game gun' has been on the market ~4 years, and maybe a year ago csmc became the distributor. http://www.rizzini.it/index.php?option=com_hotproperty&task=view&id=43&Itemid=97
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Maybe they got p'd off at Rizzini and just copied it.
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Builder, missed you at the Southern. See you next month. My order was 30" with Prince of Wales without the beautiful extended tang which is a $700 upcharge. No wood upgrade, too pricey for me. I'm looking for a bargain. Somewhere out there on the net, maybe on the CSMC website, there is a full explanation of the Galazan/Rizzini connection. I have read it recently. It isn't as much of a mystery as we are making of it. Bill Murphy
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Mine will be 30", pistol grip, std wood. My RBL is straight grip Exhibition Turkish. Both guns with long LOP
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The Inverness is 100% made in CSMC's factory. No Rizzini parts, regardless of what some say. JR
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Maybe they got p'd off at Rizzini and just copied it. Dogs and Doubles Blog
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Didn't Rizzini just grind the corners off a Boss design action anyway?
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john...I don't doubt you, but shucks - same gun, same name even...youi'd think some ITALian lawyer would want a piece of that story.
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Chuck, maybe Tony is taking Boss actions from the Petersen guns and converting them to Inverness guns. I can only wish that the Inverness had a Boss lockup. The Inverness has the Rizzini, Browning, Guerini type locking mechanisms which limit the shallow depth of receiver that we would prefer.
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Bill You might be right. Probably can't sell those clunky Boss guns anyway.
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I am confused by the lack of internet discussion of the Inverness gun. I, personally, can't wait to get my Boss ribbed Inverness. Has CSMC exhibited the Inverness anywhere after the Southern? Who experienced the great new gun at the Northeast Shoot?
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Up to this point I haven't had a single O/U in the house to corrupt my dandy doubles but this time Tony snatched me and I got the sucker ordered with 30" tubes and an open pistol grip, hopefully a POW. No wood upgrades, etc--just a good solid stick. Have absolutely no use for the gun and never will. But it's fun!
When an old man dies a library burns to the ground. (Old African proverb)
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Joe, that's exactly the gun I ordered, and for the same reason. I have absolutely no use for it, but I like it. However, I ordered the Boss short rib for a ridiculous price, just to be different. Murphy
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Tony had 2 guns at the N E shoot,a special and a POW grip. I believe that the pistol grip is really a POW. The long tang realy made the gun look great. It's expensive but I changed my orders from short to long. I think it makes the guns look very " Scot-ish ". 30" barrels,long stock.The special had a Boss quarter rib that was very nice.
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For those of us in the American vintage era, its all a big yawn.
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Pricing is kinda like buying indian jewelry...Normal Price 10,000, today only half off, with discounts 7.98....
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I agree, but I still ordered one. The options are priced off the scale,however
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Pricing is kinda like buying indian jewelry...Normal Price 10,000, today only half off, with discounts 7.98.... I was thinking just like Mao wristwatches from a street vendor on the Tianamen.
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For those of us in the American vintage era, its all a big yawn.
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Rumor has it that some CSMC Inverness shotguns have been completed and shipped. Anyone out there receive any word on their Inverness order from CSMC?
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Yup, it may be a yawn for vintage gun guys, but I still ordered one.
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I'm not holding my breath but it'll sorta be like a surprise package when it comes--a surprise because I'd just about forgotten I'd ordered one. It'll be my first O/U.....guess I'm going over to the dark side. Please don't excommunicate me from this esteemed august body.
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So, Mr. Wood and Mr. Murphy both ordered the Inverness. That's a bit like Bill Clinton donating to the Tea Party. There must be something there.
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I handled the Inverness, and spent some time with it, at the Fall Classic last weekend. If the importance of it is that it is an American made, well built 20 ga. O/U, that can be tailored to one's specifications, it appears to be a real winner. If I did not own a 20 ga. O/U that has already made me scores of memories in the field for the past 9 years I would seriously consider ordering one.
Problem is, I shoot a 687 SP II Sporting (30" barrels) that fits me like it was built just for me, and shoots where I look. I will never be able to wear it out, it is deadly reliable, and pretty nice looking, IMO. And I bought it new for under 1600 dollars.
Much as I like the Inverness, and the fact it is American, I can't throw the baby out with the bathwater, and I can't justify owning two 30" 20 ga. O/Us. I hope they shoot like a literal death ray for ya'll, 'cause they sure are nice to look at and handle.
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Joe just had an unscratchable itch to buy another gun and couldn't skin someone out of a damascus barrel Parker.......
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Joe just had an unscratchable itch to buy another gun and couldn't skin someone out of a damascus barrel Parker....... SRH
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What makes it even worse is I don't even like 20 gauges--they spend all their lives wishing they were 16's or 12's.
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Stan, I hadn't thought about it, but I also have a Beretta 30" 20. It is the first 30" 680 series 20 Beretta imported, in about 1986 or 1987. It came to me directly from Beretta USA. It is a custom made large frame 682 pigeon or International Trap gun in 682X Trap configuration with black receiver, low step rib and fixed improved modified and full chokes. I have not seen another one since.
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I've never seen one either, bill. Bet it would be a great gun for registered subgauge events. I shoot mine in them, and have done pretty well, but it is a little light and quick. But, for a dove gun it is just about perfect. How much do you figure it weighs?
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Stan, as it was made, with a real beefy fancy English Walnut Monte Carlo stock, it was probably 8 1/2 pounds. It was a little light in the front. After 25 years of shooting, with three or four sets of extra barrels, it is now fitted with a Wenig crossover stock. It has been my NSCA competition gun with 32" low step 12 gauge barrels, my International Skeet gun with low step barrels cut to 28", and is now my NSSA four gauge skeet gun with Briley tubes. It was more than 20 years old when I had it tubed, which I did because it had the crossover stock which my Krieghoff did not have when I wanted to start shooting skeet again. It is some gun, especially with the original 20 gauge trap barrels. I can't imagine how many rounds it has through it. Murphy
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The 28" low step barrels are as rare as the 30" 20 gauge barrels. Here is the story. One day, I went to the factory in Accokeek, MD to see about getting skeet barrels. I sat in the shop office with my friend, a Beretta gunsmith, and told him I wanted to have a set of skeet barrels installed on the 20 gauge 682. He said that wouldn't work because the high stock would make the rib on the skeet barrels way too low to shoot well. He picked up the gun and went into the shop, came back about 30 minutes later. The gun had a set of 28" low step trap barrels with a sight on the end. I asked where he came up with such a set of barrels and he replied that someone must have damaged the end of a set of 32" trap barrels. I had the feeling that the damage had occurred in the past 30 minutes. The bill for the damaged set of barrels was $225. Those were the days.
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Very interesting, Bill. The 680 series guns have to be among the most reliable ever made. I am seriously considering getting a set of .410 barrels for mine for early season doves.
OBTW, the doves are really hitting my harvested peanut fields, now. Season doesn't come back in until Thanksgiving Day, but I think they will stay until then. Numbers seem to be building, per my scouting. Queen Jean's uncle is confined to a wheelchair, but used to be a very active hunter and fisherman. He asked me last week if I would let him come sit in a field during a shoot and watch us. I was humbled, and very happy, to tell him I would love for him to. It made me keenly aware of how blessed we are to be able to still chase these birds and enjoy our guns.
All my best, SRH
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Sounds like some good shooting in the works, Stan. Love that wintertime dove hunting.
Yes, you cannot find a better gun for the money than a Beretta 686/687 in any version. I've really enjoyed my 687 SPII Gallery Special 20 ga. w/30" bbls. 6 1/4 lbs. and very smooth on the swing.
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Yep. A money clip from Galazan. I got him down to 10 dollars on it! SRH
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I ended up getting an Inverness with 30" barrels and a straight (English) grip. I'm fairly sure that a POW grip would be a better option as far as "shootability" is concerned, but I was simply seduced by how sleek it looked with the straight grip. I made the decision to buy an Inverness after handling one. It simply felt like a well balanced wand. My guess is that the added weight of the metal ribs, or whatever they call them, on the sides of the forend help give it that, between the hands" feeling that a game gun should have.
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Just called CSMC to see if they had a part for my Rizzini and happened to ask the lady who answer the phone (didn't get her name) about shipment of Inverness shotguns. She said that they are packing up the first shipment now and folks who ordered in January and February should be getting calls asking for FFL's very soon.
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I was told the same thing Monday
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Has anyone seen the Deluxe version of the Inverness? Enhanced engraving (laser), upgraded wood, extended tang and pistol grip cap. Listed for $6995 without any indication that loyal customer and PIF discounts are available. I am not a big fan of the bold foliate scroll and coin finish - the engraving/CCH on the standard model appeals to my eye more. Inverness Deluxe Has anyone looked at the lockup on these guns? I understand it is based on the I. Rizzini guns, and therefore assume it uses that same standard trunnion + underlug Brescia lockup found on Rizzini, Fausti, Guerini et al.
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Good News! I ordered mine in January.
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Does it come with a case?
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