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Most collectors are aware that provenance connecting any item with a well known personality [ie: politician, big game hunter, movie star, author, etc;] almost always increases its value as compared to normal retail. This is certainly true with firearms. I have in my collection a near mint 12G bar-in-wood hammer gun made in 1875 by a well known English gun maker. Makers records show that the original owner was the son of an English Baron. Dose the provenance described above add to the value of the gun?
Last edited by Roy Hebbes; 11/25/13 09:28 PM.
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was the owner famous for anything other than his birth?
i would not think title alone would add value.
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I wouldn't pay more for it.
Now please share the gun with us. I would love to see it.
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USAF RET 1971-95
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In most cases it adds interest but not value. Many English guns were owned by nobility both domestic and foreign, who else could afford them?
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I thought they were all Barons or some such.
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Unless the gun was ordered from new by The King, Walsingham, Ripon, Ernest Hemingway, Winston Churchill, a Tsar or Russia, etc provenance is of limited value in monetary terms.
A lot of best guns were made for the landed gentry, many of them are of no historical consequence. Even minor royals are not really interesting, the person concerned generally has to be either a big noise in shooting history, a famous author, like WDM Bell etc or be of such significance that his possessions are interesting to those beyond the shooting.gun collecting community.
As with all other gun purchases, original quality and current condition are the key.
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Well shuckers, Andy...
Looks like Bonhams and Christie's might as well shut 'er down...
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