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Kuduae,
Thank you again.
As they, the rounded and square backs, are without a formal name I will just refer to them in the future as either an "Altdeutsche Backe" = old German cheek-piece or "Verlaufende Deutsche Backe" = running out German cheek-piece with either a round or square back. It's also nice to have the German term (in German) used for the Bavarian cheek-piece. I appreciate your help with this.
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Another example of a "Bavarian" cheekpiece, this time a Mahrholdt - Peterlongo Stutzen on a Schmidt & Habermann, Suhl, M21 action, proofed 1941: 
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I am new to this forum but I have hunted with Brenneke Slugs from Rottweil for about 37 years in Germany and Turkey for Wild Boar. I use both 16 ga. and 12 ga. and they are very effective. They are my preferred slug. Most shots at running game are made at less than 50 meters. 300-400 lb Boars in Turkey went down but there was usually no exit wound. I usually had an exit wound on smaller boars in Germany.
Nice old drilling. I have the same caliber combination in a Ferlach Vierling, just one extra shotgun barrel. 9,3X74R - 12/70 -12/70 - 9,7X74R.
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Baumgarten as well as I would like to see images of the Ferlach Vierling.
Kind Regards,
Raimey
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Yes, indeed, me too!!! What's the weight?
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Euro Hunter,
Thank you for your field report on the effectiveness of the 16 ga and 12 ga Brenneke slugs on boar. It reads like they will do well on our whitetail and the feral hog population as well.
And yes, I am very interested in seeing pictures of your Vierling.
Mark
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There was a discussion about the "Sauer Meisterstück" I found on a dealers website By the way, it will fit me too, I'm 6,5 and 95 Kg with big hands… ;-)
Fuhrmann may be right with the stock. Have a look at this nice Sauer & Sohn Suhl from the 1935ies :
Sauer & Sohn Suhl "Krawatte"
Hinterschaft mit Träne, Krawatte und bayrischer Backe mit Doppelfalz, Schaftlänge 370 mm!
The question is, if the stock is original Suhl or renewed....
The Krawatte is a styling element used by various Gunstockmakers till today.
But obviuosly it's preferred by southern Germany and Austrian/Ferlach makers.
Gunwolf I sent a mail to the dealer (serious one as I believe) and today get his reply: "Sie haben auf unserer Homepage in unserer Galerie gestöbert und sind auf den Sauer&Sohn-Flinte „Meisterwerk“, Baujahr ca. 1935, gestoßen. Alle Waffen aus der Galerie sind durch uns bereits vermittelt oder verkauft worden! Die Waffe war in jedem Detail original bis auf das 1996 geänderte Patronenlager, welches im Auftrag des ehemaligen Besitzers auf 12/76 Magnum vergrößert wurde. Gerade bei diesem Modell „Meisterwerk“ konnte der Besteller jedes Detail nach seinem Wunsch gravieren, schäften und bauen lassen.That means, all is original except the 12/76…!!!! It was a fully custom-made Gun by Sauer! Interesting to see, what was possible in that time. That corresponds with Büchsemanns Drilling, I think. Here the Gun once more: Sauer & Sohn Suhl "Krawatte" Gunwolf
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Gunwolf,
thanks for this info!
Well then, if they say so.....but let me confess I'm still not quite convinced with the complete originality of this stock. The doubts begin with the white spacers under pistol grip and butt plate.
On the other hand, there's no doubt that one always could get a stock "bespoke" in every detail in Suhl, so why not? We can't find out more without this gun in hand.
Let me add a very personal view : I do not like these renovations that make a gun appear "as new"...
Besides, this particular Sauer shotgun has been wounded badly by the quite needless rechambering to 3" shells.
Regards
fuhrmann
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Gunwolf,
I'm curious, are you considering purchasing this Sauer&Sohn doppelflinte?
Mark
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Büchsemann,
no, the gun is not available any longer, it's only shown on the traders website!
Fuhrmann,
I know what you mean and of course there remain some doubts…
As for the "renovation", I'm with you and prefere a moderate way of brush up and the 12/76 of course is complete nonsense!
Waidmannsheil,
Gunwolf
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