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Kem I do not need to read a book to know what the 12 and 13/1 mean . What I am curious about is why there are two bore sizes stamped ? Only reason I can think of is that the gun has been bored up and reproofed .

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Kem,
Beautiful shotgun, great job on the wood

Reproofed to Nitro Proof and 1 1/8 ounce of shot, now marked 12

I see the London C, VP, and NP (and sword) proof marks but no R proof mark, might it be there?

http://proofmarks.tripod.com/englishproofs.html

Mike

p.s. are there any markings on the face near to where the face meets the action flat? Picture?
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Kem, I have a similar, but not as nice, Army & Navy from the same time period. We both have the intercepting sears. Roughly 1888 to 1890. I have not had it lettered yet. It has the original wood and fluid steel barrels with black powder proofs. Obviously mine does have the Webley patent. I love your sculpted fences!





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Your Army & Navy is also beautiful mate use it in good health smile. I took a complete picture of the whole thing Mike here it is,





There is a " 2 MD " in the middle of the barrels i dont have any idea what that should mean, and a proof on the barrels on both side which i cant figure out that one either.

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According to my sources, that nitro proofmark (arm with a sword over NP) didn't appear until 1904. I'd say that the reproof was done some time between 1904-1925. I can see the shot charge in the latest photo, but can't make out a chamber length. Those proofmarks would be consistent for that time period.

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I have a Cogswell & Harrison made 1892 with identical carved fences. I wonder if they ever did work for Army & Navy? Lagopus.....

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Kem
Thanks but what I wanted pictured is the breech face, some times makers hid their code on the lower part of the breech face of the action and not the barrels.
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