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craig: zacky what locals are you referring too? the police? armed civilians? who?

and do you agree that the elected city council of chicago, with the consent of the people, have the right to restrict private ownership of firearms, in an effort to assist the chicago police in their war against criminal street gangs?

and finally from judge stevens:

"As a result of the rulings in Heller and McDonald, the Second Amendment, which was adopted to protect the states from federal interference with their power to ensure that their militias were �well regulated,� has given federal judges the ultimate power to determine the validity of state regulations of both civilian and militia-related uses of arms. That anomalous result can be avoided by adding five words to the text of the Second Amendment to make it unambiguously conform to the original intent of its draftsmen. As so amended, it would read:

�A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms when serving in the Militia shall not be infringed.�"

yeah, but what about those of us who are not serving the "milita", regulated or otherwise. would that mean the feds now could deny us our rights to keep and bear arms?

too bad the judge is not a member of this forum so he could answer that question for us here...but, then maybe he is?

and then there is this:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/...he-Constitution

Go suck a fart ed.

definition of militia:
A militia /mɨˈlɪʃə/[1] generally is an army or other fighting force that is composed of non-professional fighters; citizens of a nation or subjects of a state or government that can be called upon to enter a combat situation, as opposed to a professional force of regular, full-time military personnel, or historically, members of the fighting nobility class (e.g., knights or samurai).
THE CITIZENS OF THE U.S. ARE THE MILITIA! enough said.
Swedish citizens are armed and subject to defend their country at any time. So are we.
Definition of infringe:
in�fringe
inˈfrinj/Submit
verb
past tense: infringed; past participle: infringed
actively break the terms of (a law, agreement, etc.).
"making an unauthorized copy would infringe copyright"
synonyms: contravene, violate, transgress, break, breach; More
antonyms: obey, comply with
act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on.
"his legal rights were being infringed"
Definition of the word "right"
a moral or legal entitlement to have or obtain something or to act in a certain way.
"she had every right to be angry"
synonyms: entitlement, prerogative, privilege, advantage, due, birthright, liberty, authority, power, license, permission, dispensation, leave, sanction, freedom; historicaldroit
"you have the right to say no"

These are the key terms in the 2nd amendment that are always subject to having their definitions twisted by addlepated, elitist liberal jackoffs. What is there not to understand? The Constitution is the laws by which our country operates and we live under. The right to keep and bear arms is a RIGHT given to us in the Constitution that may not be violated, encroached upon,or taken away so the citizenry of America, armed with their PERSONAL weapons may come to the defense of our country in times of war, invasion, or other state of national emergency.
Liberal power hungry cowards have been trying to limit or delete this right for years knowing that an armed citizenry can prevent a dictatorship of this country. So, screw Stevens and all like him.

gary: one of the issues regarding our right to keep and bear arms is that the constitution does not define "a well regulated militia". so logically, we have to assume that the second amendment is referring to the militia, as it existed when the amendment was adopted.

now, that militia no longer exists. it has been replaced, by local and state police forces. what used to be the local militia at the local company level, became the state national guard, with regional armories. since the end of the civil war, state national guards have been transformed into ready reserve federal military units. and since 1898, those military units have been increasingly utilized by the federal government to go overseas and particapate in foreign military adventures. mean while, the closest thing that we have today to a well regulated militia is our local police force.

and to claim that all citizens who possess arms are members of the militia and as such have firearms ownership rights protected by the second amendment is wishful thinking.

Your statement above shows your liberal ignorance and stupidity....armed forces (local, state,national)controlled by the govt. can be easily used by an out of control dictatorial govt. to take away freedoms and suppress protest against such actions by the citizens. Private citizens, armed with their private weapons, were instrumental in kicking the Brits and their monarchy out of this country and are the last defense against totalitarian govt. You can "logically assume" all the bullshit you want, but logically assuming does not change history. If your community was attacked by an invading force or domestic terrorists, would you hide behind locked doors and cry for the govt. to help or would you arm yourself and go to the defense of your community and neighbors? Don't answer that...everyone on this forum knows where you would be.
Texas still has a state militia made up of citizens who legally own firearms and so do 37 other states.
If you bother to read the Constitution, Bill of Rights, or writings of the Founding Fathers, it is clear they did not intend for Americans to depend on government for their every need. Unfortunately, there are many spineless people today such as yourself who prefer to suckle the tit of big govt. and live on their knees.
Now that you've gotten a little attention today, why not go blowtorch a few guns and take a permanent vacation from the Double Gun Forums?
In case you ever do find the intestinal fortitude to stand and fight, here's a handgun for your use. Have a nice day and feed and water your unicorn.

gary: sounds to me like you are in denial...fanasizing how you would like things to be and not as they are...

and your resorting to personal attack and insult shows a weakness of character that i find surprizing, considering your previous posts on this thread...

Oh, it's not a personal attack; simply a statement of fact. I notice you never post on the Support the 2nd Amendment thread because it is obvious you do not; a weakness of character routinely exhibited by the spineless liberal left. Unfortunately, there always seems to be one or two rotten apples in the barrel and that's the odor that emanates from your posts.

"Unfortunately, there always seems to be one or two rotten apples in the barrel and that's the odor that emanates from your posts."

reminds me of nazi propoganda i read some where long ago...