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Drew, I truly appreciate your hard work and contribution, but my search is for a 20ga

Matt Your Ideal Long Range is most likely on a standard weight frame, most of the later guns were built on Feather weight frames and usually have an FW preceding the serial #. I have a 12, 16 and 20 in feather weight, I will measure the width of the standing breech and the distance between the firingpins and get back to you. Don't have a 410, 180038 was made approximately 1938.

Added info; 12ga standing b= 2.34", f/p= 1.15"
16ga " 2.17", " 1.08"
20ga " 2.02", " 1/02"

Thank-you for the excellent info James. I'll measure the suspected 20ga frame and compare to your receiver.

doctor Drew- I beg to differ. I believe, due to the schnabel forearm, these most likely are the R or std frame-possibly with the rotary joint check design. Like you and many other gents here, and elsewhere FWIW, we have spent many years studying, collecting and shooting with our favorite Lady- "Elsie"- RWTF

Only for now confused (but unimpaired) observers.

The ebay offering



Clearly has a short barrel lug. Reg frame lug on left



Without a joint check



And most certainly not a Hunter Arms Schnabel

And that's not even the correct forend wood for that field grade FW barrel set; too much checkering, and the shape of the tip is wrong.

I have a OO grade made in 1899- has the field grade schnabel splinter forearm- in my "parts for sale" bin- But Doc- you are right, I missed seeing the single sight plane solid rib, which Hunter first offered in 1939, if memory serves. If GunParts had shown more detail in their E-Bay listing, including the smaller barrel lug, of course we would also have deduced, as you already have, that this barrel set if on the FW sized receiver/frame.

Hey, I was wrong, betcha a doughtnut and a cuppa Java you have been too- You are a Christian man, so am I- tell you what- Let's remember what Our Lord & Savior said about how many times we should those who have given offense, whether by direct means, or unintentionally-7X70, correct. I have, IMO anyway, a lot of information on L.C. Smiths, as well as parts for same, that I have accumulated over many years. Selling them on this sight is about as easy as shoving a pound of melted butter into a Puma's left eardrum while both of you are locked into a pay toilet booth in Grand Central Station.

Here's what I suggest-FYC (for your consideration)- Persuade the good Doctor Jim S. to reinstate my posting privileges on the LCSCA gruppen on a 6 months probation basis- If he grants this request, after I have passed probation, I will once again become a paid up annual member, and possibly take my friend Jent Mitchell's many invites to attend some of the SC double gun events held in his sector- "The Old Dominion". And as I mentioned in my reply to the good Herr Doktor S--and now openly to you, or any other Gent that cares too- please feel free to contact Jent and ask him anything you wish to about me. You might also want to ask LCSCA member Mr. Richard W. Miller, who also lives in Virginia and knows Jent as well- he lives in Lynchburg-- and feel free to query him about what it is like to do business on Smith parts with meine Doppelganger- Herr Archibald S. Holebrooke. Danke!! Der Fuchs

Looks a bit like the one on my 1932 mfg. Eagle Grade 12 gauge Live Bird gun- 32" F&F, raised Simmons pat'd Hunter Arms ventilated rib, doule triggers, ejectors, straight hand (Eng;lish) sty;e grip BUT the roller lsatch escutcheon on my Eagle Grade is rectangular in shape, believe what you have shown us here is the graceful "Banjo" shaped- Wonder if the late Eddie Peabody owned and shot an L.C. Smith gun?? RWTF

I'll have to look again. The photo I have right now (I'm not at home) does not show an FW in front of the serial but I do see something. Just can't tell what it is. I'll try and post this photo.

Suspected 20ga LC Smith frame.