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Best photo I have right now. I'll measure it when home as well. Haven't had a chance.

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@Jamesj my LC smith frame is indeed a FW frame. The distance (between hole centers approximately using dial calipers) between firing pins is 1.20 I'm unfamiliar with the term standing breech (I'm a bit of a doubles noob)so I couldn't make that measurement. Is there any other way to discover the gauge this frame was intended for?

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I think I've figured out what the standing breech is, the vertical section of the breech where the firing pins are housed. If so I measured the width of this and it is right about 2.75 So this may be a 12ga feather weight???? If so would the barells that drew posted from ebay be a correct set? Minus fitting anyhow.

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Matt, measure across the frame where the barrels butt against (standing breech) that would be equal to the width of the barrels, I am guessing you have a 12ga frame. All other measurements of FW frames are basically the same regardless of gauge. On second thought the photo of the frame you posted looks long, to be sure measure the cut out on the frame where the barrel lump extends through it should be about .70 on a FW frame, it is about 1.20 on an R frame.

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Well im not sure where that cut out is. Again im a newbie. It is stamped FW on the frame ahead of the serial number. I cant find any cutouts that measure .70 I measured across the round veeticak vertical flats (where the barells butt against closed) in line with the firing pins and got about 2.70??? Im a bit confused now. Ha ha.

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mattl46, over the years, I have bought a number of project guns to repair or restore, including an L.C. Smith and 2 20 ga. Ithaca Flues with blown barrels. I also have a 16 ga Baker B Grade complete action and buttstock that is very nice, and a 16 ga. Syracuse Lefever action and forearm. Both need barrels and the Baker also needs the forearm. I have walked many miles at many gun shows and shops looking for these parts, but so far have only found barrels for the 12 ga. 00 grade L.C. Smith, which took very little fitting to make a into shooter with mismatched serial numbers. Total investment for my mismatched numbers L.C. Smith shooter was $100.00 and a bunch of time.

Another recent success story was a 12 ga. Folsom Baker Batavia that was in excellent condition with very strong case colors, but was missing the forearm. I paid $100.00, which wouldn't have been a bad price for just the barrels. Then I found a correct forearm in a lot of 5 forearms on Gunbroker for $40.00. That lot also had a nice Syracuse Lefever forearm which was an added bonus.

I still hold out hope that I will find the parts to return the others to the field, but I have learned it won't be easy. In my searches, I have found a lot of other things I needed, or didn't even know I needed until I saw them. Once, I found a DSE grade Lefever action and forearm at one gun show, and I found the exact matching serial number buttstock for this gun a couple months later at another gun show about 70 miles away. I learned that the parts from this gun became separated after a gunsmith died, and I keep hoping that I will one day find the matching barrels even though I did find another set of DSE 12 ga. barrels to complete the gun... no easy feat in itself. So enjoy your parts hunting and good luck. It's all part of the same insanity that drives guys to spend years chasing down parts and spending $40,000 to restore a car that they will only realistically be able to sell for $25,000.


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Keith, what an inspirational story. I wont give up. If I can determine what gauge my LC smith is in, it wont be too bad. There are several barell sets im looking at. Just dont kbow if its the righf chambering.

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I have a friend who bought a fore end and iron on E-bay for a gun that was missing them. He took the gun and newly purchased
fore end to his gunsmith to fit and the gunsmith pointed out to him that the serial # on the fore end matched the gun.
What's the odds?


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Thats awesome!!!

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I seem to remember a lot of LC Smith "in the white" barrel sets on the market a few years ago...Geo

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