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RyanF nailed it.
Even Chretien wouldn't touch it. Wishful thinking little King. If Ryan had it correct, Democrats would have impeached Bush and crucified him too. Not necessarily in that order. And Tony Blair would not have been exonerated by Parliament after their investigation. Our Libtards act as though the intel on WMD was the only impetus for taking out Saddam. He had returned to his old ways and was blatantly violating U.N. sanctions. What good are U.N. sanctions if dictators are permitted to violate them at will? As it stands, all the Liberal Democrats can do is have their sorry little foot-soldiers like you and little Billy continue to repeat the lie often enough that some fools and dupes may believe it. If you or Little Billy had any real proof, we'd never hear the end of it. You're both pathetic.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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If Saddam had any WMDs, when faced with certain death, why didnt he use them, as he had done in the past?....
....Maybe the lesson is you cant trust anything these people say about anything. You cant believe what they say about war, healthcare, the economy, the climate, immigration, hope and change, or anything at all.... Sadam, knew from the first gulf go round that his military would likely get over run in days, if not hours. There's no evidence that these folks go out like righteous warriors. He returned to 'home' where friends tried to cover for him, and he would've grovled in a pig pen to avoid capture. I think at the end, he was hoping to pull a binladen and hide away watching porn. If he was in charge, which he wasn't, history shows he would use chemical based wmd's. I really don't follow about the trust angle. The folks that trust it's right to burn Bush in effigy, will trust that all their entitlements will be provided. Apparently, it doesn't matter if it is not true, all that matters is that these 'trusting' sorts will provide their vote. I think it's a huge mistake to expect reason.
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There is no point in offering information here . People point out that Scooter Libby wasn't convicted of outing Valerie Plame. They insist he was convicted of lying. So? What was it he was convicted of lying about? That Bush would use evidence he had been advised was not reliable in order to make his case for war must seem to reasonable people like fudging. If it strikes people here as a reasonable course of action from a responsible leader, then it's not such a big leap to imagine that Trump could actually be nominated.
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There is no point in offering information here . People point out that Scooter Libby wasn't convicted of outing Valerie Plame. They insist he was convicted of lying. So? What was it he was convicted of lying about? That Bush would use evidence he had been advised was not reliable in order to make his case for war must seem to reasonable people like fudging. If it strikes people here as a reasonable course of action from a responsible leader, then it's not such a big leap to imagine that Trump could actually be nominated. Better look at the Iowa polls today, BIll. You are in for a surprise if you think Trump is in the lead. It would seem that lying is OK, as long as it is a democrat doing it-remember "Mitt Romney hasn't paid his taxes in ten years" from Harry Reid? No proof, no truth, just feed it to the media and watch the frenzy. Was Harry held accountable? Seems not. Ditto the lie about Mitt's employee's "wife dying from cancer, because Mitt didn't provide healthcare". A falsehood, picked up by the dupes in the media, and run with. Or how 'bout the classic "Dog tied to the roof of Mitt's station wagon" lie? The dog was in a Versa kennel, on a trailer, and if a dog traveling in a Versa kennel is reason to go to hell, I guess I'll be there, too-all my dogs have done the same thing on hunting trips over the years, and never seemed to mind. I'm quite tired of democrat driven lies (unemployment at 3.5%, how 'bout THAT lie, Bill?) not being held to, well, any standard of truth. You did see the little nugget in the news yesterday about 51% of all Americans earning less than $30,000 dollars a year since the great recession took place, right? Factor that in with the increases built into Obama care, and let us know how that is going to work out for those people. Shall I go on? There is a smorgasboard of them, these days, Bill. Just open your eyes, and look. Best, Ted
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Ted, You're right; Democrats have been caught lying. Does that suit me? No. Corruption is not a partisan issue. I'm not tired of Republican lies. I'm not tired of Democratic lies. I'm sick and tired of politicians' lies, whatever party they come from.
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Trump leads nationally. Iowa ethos driving Carson. They-and-we-purer makes Misfires tiresome.
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I strongly suggest that you get your facts straight. The Libby conviction was an unfortunate case of prosecutorial misconduct. For your information, this recount by the Washington Post that the conviction should be reversed. One cannot discount the WaPo as being a right wing publication. For those who do not wish to read the entire article, this quote sums up what Libby was convicted of; "So Libby was convicted for telling the FBI he didnt tell Russert about Plame and falsely admitted to telling Kessler about Plamewhen he did not." https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/rig...bby-conviction/For a bonus point, perhaps you can tell us who ultimately was convicted and sentenced for outing Plame.
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Today's CBS poll has Carson leading Trump nationally.
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That's good news, Jim. Maybe goes to show intelligence and pleasant demeanour trumps bluster and division.
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Preposterous.
Saddam was unable to either move the weapons or order their use in the Gulf War because anything that moved was attacked from the air, and their entire communications system was disrupted. Intentionally of course, but no doubt due to your vast knowledge of SIGNET and counter-communications warfare you'll be able to refute this. Considering that that was exactly what the actions during both wars were designed to prevent.
Saddam used'em on the Iranians and the Kurds because he knew he'd experience no consequences.
It's a convenient lapse of memory to forget the campaign being waged to lift the sanctions on Iraq before the last war, which was why Saddam tried to hold onto his WMDs.
I prefer wood to plastic, leather to nylon, waxed cotton to Gore-Tex, and split bamboo to graphite.
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