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The museum picture file has a .410 Parker with a label that says it is a Specialty Grade Smith. The author used that particular picture in his article.
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Grimm used a 12-bore L.C. Smith gun, 7 3/4 pounds, 3 3/4 drams Schultze, 1 1/4 ounce No. 7 shot, in U.M.C. Trap shell.
Carver used a 12-bore Cashmore gun, 8 pounds weight, 4 drams of Carver powder, 1 1/4 No. 7 shot, in U.M.C. Trap shell.
I don't have access to an 1897 Union Metallic Cartridge Co. catalogue, but in both the 1896 and the 1899 the heaviest 12-gauge bulk smokeless powder load offered in the UMC TRAP shell (or any other UMC paper shell for that matter) was 3 1/4 drams pushing 1 1/4 ounce of shot. Those were some mighty stout loads those old boys were leaning into!! After the Turn of the Century, 3 1/2 dram loads became available from our North American ammunition manufacturers --  but I have found some of the old gun writers decrying them and stating the 3 1/4 dram, 1 1/4 ounce was a better "balanced" load.
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Ooops The museum picture file has a .410 Parker with a label that says it is a Specialty Grade Smith. The author used that particular picture in his article. Which museum-the Guggenheim or perhaps the Louvre? WTF..
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
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Damnation- not my favorite, that being Yosemite Sam,but maybe his cousin -close enuf- good one Dewey, thanks? Now if we can only get the hallowed DGJ to correct Tommy Archer's fubar in a otherise most excellent article on a scarce Monogram Grade 12 bore Elsie- he "missed the boat" on the exact date the German U-boat sunk the Lusitania-no big deal, but for the price they get for the fine quarterly magazine, I expect 100% picture perfect proofreading- as the late Casey "Stinky" Stengel once so wisely said: "Hey, you can always go look it up somewheres!"--
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"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
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The museum that is administrated by the author's employers, NRA. Not too hard to figure out. Or was Francis just playing with me?
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The museum that is administrated by the author's employers. Not too hard to figure out. Or was Francis just playing with me? Not a chance.
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Did he happen to mention what year they patented the cracks in the stock behind the lockplates?
I see so many of them that way, I figure it was a trade secret of some sort...
Best,
Ted They did not patent it until 1913....that is why on most pre 13 guns the cracks mostly stay under the lockplates....
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Did he happen to mention what year they patented the cracks in the stock behind the lockplates?
I see so many of them that way, I figure it was a trade secret of some sort...
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Ted "Watch out, kid-they keep it all hid" Robert Allen Zimmerman- 1966!! They did not patent it until 1913....that is why on most pre 13 guns the cracks mostly stay under the lockplates....
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None of my pre 1913 Smiths, hammer or hammerless, have a hint of a crack behind the lockplates, or anywhere else.
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