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People like Larry Brown is the reason our country is in such dire shape in the world now.
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Only cult followers would be willing to blow themselves. Anything else for your criteria? Islam matches the “Characteristics Associated with Cultic Groups” according to the International Cultic Studies Association (ICSA). Here are some of these characteristics, according to the ICSA: The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law. Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished. Mind-altering practices (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, and debilitating work routines) are used in excess and serve to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s). The leadership dictates, sometimes in great detail, how members should think, act, and feel (for example, members must get permission to date, change jobs, marry — or leaders prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, whether or not to have children, how to discipline children, and so forth). The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s) and members (for example, the leader is considered the Messiah, a special being, an avatar — or the group and/or the leader is on a special mission to save humanity). The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society. The leader is not accountable to any authorities. The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify whatever means it deems necessary. This may result in members’ participating in behaviors or activities they would have considered reprehensible or unethical before joining the group (for example, lying to family or friends, or collecting money for bogus charities). The leadership induces feelings of shame and/or guilt in order to influence and/or control members. Often, this is done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion. Subservience to the leader or group requires members to cut ties with family and friends, and radically alter the personal goals and activities they had before joining the group. The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members. Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group and group-related activities. Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members. The most loyal members (the “true believers”) feel there can be no life outside the context of the group. They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisals to themselves or others if they leave (or even consider leaving) the group. I know it is hard to imagine — 20% of humanity is tied up in a deceptive murderous cult — but that’s exactly what the situation is. Islam is a contagious cult that incites its followers to commit violence. Either the non-Muslim world unites and deals with this intellectual Islamic scourge, or Islam will continue its expansion.
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Oh No! jOe, I think you just pretty much described the doublegunshop BBS. Who'ed have thought?...Geo
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Sounds about right Geo... about 20% of Doublegunshop BBS tied up in a deceptive anti-2nd Amendment cult... with King Brown as their Messiah, and Obama and Hillary as their gods.
Oh, I forgot, you won't see this because you IGNORE my posts. Never mind.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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Only cult followers would be willing to blow themselves. Anything else for your criteria? Islam matches the “Characteristics Associated with Cultic Groups” according to the International Cultic Studies Association (ICSA). Here are some of these characteristics, according to the ICSA: The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law. Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished. Mind-altering practices (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, and debilitating work routines) are used in excess and serve to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s). The leadership dictates, sometimes in great detail, how members should think, act, and feel (for example, members must get permission to date, change jobs, marry — or leaders prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, whether or not to have children, how to discipline children, and so forth). The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s) and members (for example, the leader is considered the Messiah, a special being, an avatar — or the group and/or the leader is on a special mission to save humanity). The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society. The leader is not accountable to any authorities. The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify whatever means it deems necessary. This may result in members’ participating in behaviors or activities they would have considered reprehensible or unethical before joining the group (for example, lying to family or friends, or collecting money for bogus charities). The leadership induces feelings of shame and/or guilt in order to influence and/or control members. Often, this is done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion. Subservience to the leader or group requires members to cut ties with family and friends, and radically alter the personal goals and activities they had before joining the group. The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members. Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group and group-related activities. Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members. The most loyal members (the “true believers”) feel there can be no life outside the context of the group. They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisals to themselves or others if they leave (or even consider leaving) the group. I know it is hard to imagine — 20% of humanity is tied up in a deceptive murderous cult — but that’s exactly what the situation is. Islam is a contagious cult that incites its followers to commit violence. Either the non-Muslim world unites and deals with this intellectual Islamic scourge, or Islam will continue its expansion. I can't believe I'm agreeing with jOe but, according to those criteria, Islam kinda fits. However, there are occasionally some Christian groups that qualify as well. Do we label all Christians members of a cult? The real question is what percentage of Muslims qualify. Is it all of them? 75%? 25%. The problem is that with over 1.5 billion adherents, even 1% is a lot of people who can cause a lot of harm (as we have been witnessing). What Islam has missed is the philosophical progress that the Renaissance and Age of Enlightenment brought to Christianity.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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Craig, we have enough problems to deal with already without guessing at potential problems. In general, Muslims in this country have assimilated much better than they have in Europe....
....What I try to avoid doing is lumping all members of religions, ethnic groups etc together.... Sounds reasonable Larry, but now it reads like you're validating the fringe left wing in a way that you refuse to support the so called fringe right wing. You doubled down on the 'all religions are equal' rhetoric with the new qualifier, ethnicity. Isn't using the example, a assimilates better than b, the same as saying, there is no problem with some 3600 black on black murders in chicago during one watch, because it wasn't 3700? Or, pay a few looters to put on a show, and change the mantra to some social justice. Anyway, a bit back, you were the one that mention who the true enemy is and mention you weren't shy about using the term 'islamist terrorist'. Did you arrive at that by intelligence based profiling, or educated 'guessing at potential problems'? Or, does the bad guy get to look, pray and act like a terrorist before we're bold enough to crank pc up to a higher notch, some in a fringe way, some in a tacit way?
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Everyone who believes in the writings in the Koran has the makings of an Islamic terrorist craigd. Look at some of these Koranic verses... you won't find this stuff in the Bible. This is what is preached in Mosques: *Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191) *Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood (9:123) *When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5) *Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29) *Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85) *The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30 *Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam (5:33) *The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28) *Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies (22:19) *Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4) *The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65 *Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28) *Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12) When the KKK says this kind of thing about blacks, we justifiably call them a hate group. But King and his little brother Larry defend the same rhetoric from Islam.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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CB: I don't believe mainstream Christianity fits into this:
"However, there are occasionally some Christian groups that qualify as well. Do we label all Christians members of a cult?"
But When you get to fringe groups like the Branch Davidians(of Waco notoriety) and Jim Jones's cult that met their sad end in Guyana they at least in my opinion fit the bill. Jim
The 2nd Amendment IS an unalienable right.
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Jim, that's part of my point.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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Everyone who believes in the writings in the Koran has the makings of an Islamic terrorist craigd. Look at some of these Koranic verses... you won't find this stuff in the Bible. This is what is preached in Mosques: *Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191) *Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood (9:123) *When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5) *Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29) *Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85) *The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30 *Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam (5:33) *The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28) *Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies (22:19) *Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4) *The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65 *Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28) *Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12) When the KKK says this kind of thing about blacks, we justifiably call them a hate group. But King and his little brother Larry defend the same rhetoric from Islam. You won't find any stuff like that in the New Testatment. The Old Testament quotes God as ordering the Jews to perform genocide and ethnic cleansing when they entered the Promised Land. Which, the Old Testament reports, in some instances, they did.
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