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RRL = Ruger Red Label, I believe


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Originally Posted By: treblig1958
A shotgun you shoot well is priceless. If it shoots loose then take it to a gunsmith and have it fixed.

Its an old field grade that's just not worth pouring money into it.

It is to me.

But you'll lose money when you go to sell it.

It ain't for sale.


Well said Treblig!

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Thank you Sir!!!

I have my uses, they are limited but I do have them.


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About 100 years for a Parker.
My VH 20 gauge was made on a 28 ga frame way back in 1900 and around 2000 it had become loose enough to have it serviced. A gun maker friend of mine took it to Dale Tate ( http://www.daletategunmaker.com/ ) and they brought it back to life with a period recoil pad and my initials on the German silver stock shield.
It should last another 100 years now as I only take it out a couple times per year.


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Yeah, I'd like to sell it asap. I can't really judge my friend too heavily for his attitude, he just hasn't done the research, it wasn't that long ago that I was in his shoes.

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CZ - Re: those shaky RRLs. I hear you. Have an early one with about 75k rounds through it. Though it's tight on face, I had to send it back last year for a new bolt.

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I hate too much thread drift.
I bear no malice toward RRL's. I've enjoyed shooting them.
And the looseness is by design. It's intentional.
For me, it's just that having come from the "Tighter is better, Tight is a sign of precision, and Loose is bad" school, I can't appreciate the RRL's genius.

The OP wants to be rid of an old hammergun in good condition.

I advocate putting an ad up here, and selling it to me or someone else that wants to participate in the Hammer gun shoots for short money.


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These don't "shoot loose":



The gun on the bottom was produced in 1946. It is on it's second buttstock, has suffered two pimple bulges it the left barrel, a huge backbore and relief of the chokes in both barrels, and was used hard, by the former owner, one Steve Bodio, and harder by me in the two decades I've owned it.
There is no pin to wear in the design, and a spring loaded cam holds the action closed, and will compensate for any wear that occurs, although the wear surfaces in the design are enormous, and don't really allow for a lot of wear.
The barrels measure .090 in the area of the bulges, and, while technically out of proof, the maker assured me it would be fine to use as it, just not to let anything obstruct the bore.
You guys and your hinge pins...


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You're fighting a losing battle, Ted. Most of us would rather have a gun that looks nice, was built right here by our ancestors, but after many tens of thousands of rounds shoots loose and has to be corrected, than shoot an ugly gun all our lives.

I know you won't agree, but the old adage that "pretty is as pretty does" only goes so far. And for most of us, not quite as far as a sliding breech gun.

All my best, SRH


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Oh, I don't consider it a battle, Stan. As I have pointed out before, the Darne works had over 120,000 guns on the books by 1932, at the beginning of what was a huge decade for them, production wise.



I guess somebody considers a Darne good looking, Stan. I know I do.



So, in reality, no American double gun manufacturers even got close to that level of production. As Dig has pointed out, had there not been such high taxes placed on imported guns, American guns would have slugged it out here in the states, with the best from England, and the continent, and, well, I'm pretty sure that would have been the end of that, Stan.

Which one of your ancesters built that Browning that went off the hook, Stan?


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