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What are you hearing about this Smith made by Marlin? I've seen the 28 and 410, but wondered if they are boxlocks with just a side plate?
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The small gauges are made by Zabala of Spain. They are true boxlocks with false sideplates. If you want a Zabala small gauge boxlock, buy one of the discontinued BSA line for half of what the "new" L.C. will cost. Best, DR. BILL
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Not to put too fine a point on it, but these Eurotrash doubles being imported with the L.C. Smith name on them are a bigger insult to L.C. Smith (and Alexandter T. Brown) then the Model B was to Ansley Herman Fox or the Nitro Special was to Daniel Marion Lefever!!!
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That's got to be the uglyist case colors I ever saw.
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I saw a couple in the main gun store in Casper, in May. I was not impressed at all. They didn't look like $1400 worth, to me.
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No, that is not the "real LC Marlin"; that's Marlin's cheapened down second version. The first was produced just after Marlin purchased the gun works in 1945 and continued thru 1950; and represented Marlin's first attempts to lower production cost time with manufacturing short-cuts and experimenting/altering finish techniques.
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They are true boxlocks with false sideplates. This terminology is used often and leads me to ask, what are sideplates that are not false? Note I did not mention sidelocks.
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"True"/"working" sideplates are found on "Sweet Elsies", LeFever's, and other sidelock guns. In a sidelock the hammer, spring, and sear are attached to the plate vice the receiver. LeFevers while not a "true" sidelock as only the cocking indicator is part of the plate generally are classed as sidelocks. The false plates serve not real function except to provide more "canvas" for folks like Ken Hurst. Best, BILL
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"False sideplates" is one of those contradictions in terms . . . like "handling marks". The sideplates are real enough. It's just that the lock work is not attached to them. Cogswell & Harrison was one British firm that used them on quite a few guns. They had a better term: "ornamental strengthening plates".
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