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Are any of you shooting a DT 10 Beretta? I'm thinking of moving up from my 687 and wonder if they are something to include in considering Perazzis or Krieghoffs.

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Have a couple in our club and they work and shoot fine but they have failed to become popular and are tough to sell without a major loss. I have been told that they are made in the "SO" shop. K-80's hold their value best then Pizza guns with others trailing.
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Out in CA, Pguns are the most popular by 2-3 to 1, with the Kguns being second but fairly far behind in numbers. I've only seen a couple DT's for sale used and they were at a dealer who was asking top dollar. What they sold for, I couldn't say. Not many DT's around out here that show up at my range anyway.

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I think the trouble with the Beretta's is getting factory level repairs etc. Both Krieghoff and Perazzi are pretty good about servicing their race guns but Beretta doesn't seem to have the same interests. As far as the gun goes the DTs are probably the equal of any of them.

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Firstly these guns are only a 682 with a greener cross bolt grafted on top. The ASE 90 was a true premium gun and was probably made on to SO line. Make no mistake DT10 are machine made guns with all thier mass produced shortcomings.

Here in Australia I am aware of a number of these guns where Quality Control has taken a Siesta.

One I am aware of was springing open on the second shot, gun went back to Beratta, came back allegedly tightened with new springs, Did the same thing again, went back again and came back with supposedly new bolt and hammers etc, did the same thing again but trigger group also fell out on the ground. Bereatta did not want to know about it. Gun ended up going to a gentlemen who retired in Australia after being involved with a major English Gun Maker, he was actually the Technical Director,He dismantled the gun and found the top lecer trunion was machined out of round and this led to the whole gun not locking up, he fixed it and it has not played up since. Guns seem to have more than thier share of problems and resale value is pathetic. For a little more money there are far better guns out there that will give good service and hold their value.

Buy once, the thrill of the price is long forgotten, quality is remembered forever

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I know that ?? Harrison (can't think of his first name) shot the Trident for a long time and he is probably the best trap shooter today. Don't know if he still does. I never cared for Kreighoff. They always had too many parts in them for something to go wrong. Perazzis are popular. I guess it depends on what you are going to use it for. You didn't really say. But if you like Berettas you should be OK with the DT-10. Good luck.

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Hotrack, are you sure about DT10 being same mechanism as 682 plus a crossbolt? I thought the 682 had the lockup via the two tapered rods system and the DT10 does not have those at all. It locks up with crossbolt across two hefty bites extending from the barrels into the face of the receiver.

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I took a look at the DT's when I sold my K80 and was shopping a sporting clays gun. I settled on the 682 Gold E 32" because it had 32" bbls but weighed 7.75 lbs and felt like my 28" K80 but was less than $2500 to my door. That was the goal, to get off of a $5xxx+ skeet gun that I really didn't need since I wasn't shooting competively nor shooting skeet.

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How does the new (relatively) Blaser F3 stack up against the DT10?

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Jerry, Yes I know the locking system on a 682 is as you say, what I am saying is that they have replaced this with a greener style crossbolt and made the trigger group removable. ASE 90 if available today would be in the mid twenty thousands and I think Bereatta decided that they would not sell in any volume at that price and really needed something to put up against Perazzi MX8, so they took a look at the 682 and said to themselves what can we get out of this old clunker and come up with a crossbolt locking system with the rub that buyers would think it to be a lower grade ASE. Very cynical marketing ploy that has backfired in thier faces and been a boom to Perazzi and the K gun

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I could not DISAGREE more with hotrack. The DT10 is a great gun and is not an updated 680 series. The receiver is a completely different design, the bbls are interchangable with the ASE/SO series and not with the 680, and the stock and forearm are diff too. There are NO parts that interchange between the DT and 680 series. The DT is a semi production version of the ASE. I shoot an SO4 and an ASE GOLD X and I'm very happy with both but I have my ASE for sale at Indiana gun club and I'm getting a DT10 combo. I shoot bunker with 4 other shooters who use the DT10 and ALL have been trouble free. I have owned 3 Perazzi guns and have found I like the Beretta better for my style of shooting. Get the DT10 and enjoy it. Jerry


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Boy this is confusing! Me being Jerry V Lape and sovrapposto signing off as Jerry V. and both posting on the same thread, someone might think we were one and the same. We are not.

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Update! I shot Sunday and had a chance to shoot a DT10 and a Perazzi. Shot the DT10 first; I thought it felt better, easier to keep moving than my 687. I was thinking it might be a better deal than what I had and keep some money in my pocket.

Then I shot the Perazzi. Ok now to find a Krieghoff to try against a Perazzi. Once I shot about 10 targets with the Perazzi, a DT10 wasnot an option for me.

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I have handled both the DT10 and the Blaser. Bought the Blaser 32" sporting model. I believe the Blaser to be superior due to the trigger mechanism and the quality of observable workmanship. I have had a number of problems with new Berettas, some addressed by the MD warranty facilty, others ignored.

After shooting the Blaser exclusively, I returned to the Beretta 687. I saw target, thought I have pulled the trigger, but no boom. I really had to slap that Beretta trigger, or so it seemed.

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