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Makes sense Gil.

Quite funny how Ky is ignoring me one minute and replying to me the next...must be he gets too much fiber at his hull dump.

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Interesting, Gil.

Wonder how I could entice deer to eat them?

Dang, I'm sick of the things! There was three fresh killed (by cars/trucks) between my house and Girard yesterday, 6.5 miles.

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Deer are a pestilence. Their numbers are nearly out of control in some areas in. MD. On our farms hunters are given a quota. Harvest X number or your lease will not be renewed. I now pay half the cost of processing them if donated to the local food bank. I want 150 taken out of the population, I would love 200+ and the farmer would like twice that number. Even then I know others will just move into the empty space. But something must be done because nothing expands forever before it collapses due to disease.

Its unreal the number of deer we have in MD. Look at any field in September or October and you will see from half a dozen to several dozen deer broken up into small groups. How any crops manage to make it to harvest is a mystery to me. so Stan I feel for you because I know you have the same problem with all the timber around every little field. Sleep in the woods and eat in the fields.

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Same problem here. Crossbows flying off the shelves.

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Thankful there is a huge mast crop here this year. My live oaks in my yard are already raining acorns. Deer come up next to the house and eat them at night. When they're eating acorns they aren't eating crops.

Wish acorns fell in the spring instead of the fall.

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The only real deer solution is called shoot and forget.

At one time Tennessee issued crop depradation permits farmers were allowed to shoot deer but they couldn't use the carcass or rack for anything.

Then some limp prick got involved and let people shoot them and utilize the meat and horns...all that did was open an early trophy hunt for a lot of people.

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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
The only real deer solution is called shoot and forget.


That is not a solution, either. You cannot kill enough of them to make a dent, even with depredation permits. Take my word for it. I could shine a spotlight behind my house, across the peanut field, right now and see many sets of eyes. And, I killed 9 this summer, out of that field, while kneeling on my back porch.

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Deer have become a big problem for the farmers east of Yuma. Five years ago there were no fences on the fields, but now there are miles of six to eight-foot wire fences on fields to be planted with lettuce and other crops. One farmer we talked with in September told us the he recently counted something like 80 deer in a single field. This is right at the Gila River on the edge of nothing but desert. He encountered a mountain lion in that same field.

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We have in years past kill 75 or more deer on several of my farms. Let that number sink in 75 on each farm. Not counting hunting seasons Did it make a difference? Perhaps, but not long term. We also had a lady seriously injured when a deer jumped into her car while she was driving home about half a mile from my farm. When she later found out we were reducing the numbers she told us to kill them all for her. Bambi hitting her car and putting her into the hospital convinced her to no longer be anti hunting.

Unless you go to extremes shooting a few is only a temporary solution but at least its something. The DNR is not doing squat about the deer population problem. When deer eat 20-40% of your crops a farmer has no chance to earn a living. So either the deer need to die or the farmer might as well find another way to earn a living.

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I hear a lot of anger here from deer hunters in Georgia over deer losses by coyotes during the fawn drop season. There have been published articles about some counties being dangerously close to the "predator pit" issue where once predators get the upper hand, no amount of reproduction can balance out the losses. Around here, the DNR is catching grief over the coyote population and deer population reduction. It seems someone is always complaining about lack of action by the DNR. Politics are often involved in controlling DNR action. For instance, a group of saltwater fishing guides met with local DNR to lower redfish limits as the 5 fish limit was impacting the number of fish. SC and Florida have far lower limits. The DNR said their hands were tied because they must first do a "study" before lowering limits. The legislature controls the funding which must be in place for studies. Another example of politics was the legislature's allowing hunting over feeders. On a radio program, a DNR representative said that the decision to allow baiting for deer was not based upon game management principles but was based on political reasons. Damned if you do; damned if you don't. Gil

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