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I'll 3rd, 4th, or 5th the idea of a chamber cast. It is simple and will end the agnoy and confusion. There are many variations of 22 caliber wildcats based on the 30-30 rim diameter case. I have a 1903 Springfield with a C.C. Johnson barrel that started life as a Lovell and when I acquired it was/still is chambered in .219 ICL. Do yourself a favor and get some cerosafe and cast the chamber.

Thaine

I checked both books, although I have the Ness book on the .22s and not Landis�, but there was no .22-219 listed as such. The number of .219.based wildcats was staggering. You�ll have to do a chamber cast to find out what you have.

Thanks for everyone's help. I will let you know how things progress, whether I cast the chamber or someone sends me a .219 Wasp case or cartridge. I put a nice little 10X 1 1/4" objective Unertl on the Winchester today. Now it looks like a rifle. Bill Murphy in MD.

I have had a chamber cast done and it looks like I have a .219 Donaldson Wasp according to the dimensions pictured in Landis' Woodchucks and Woodchuck Rifles, 1951, page 350. Next step is to beg one of our forum participants to sell me a box of loaded ammunition so I can testfire. Thanks.

Eightbore:

You might post your request for a box of loaded .219 Don Wasp brass on the ASSRA website. They will be someone's handloads, as, to my knowledge, the .219 Don Wasp was never a factory cartridge. A lot of the .219s were built on single shot actions and many of those guys still shoot them.

Rem

Eightbore, I can send you some brass, no charge.

Thanks for help from everyone. I had not thought to go on the ASSRA forum to look for information. Rocky Mt. Bill, thanks for the offer. I will see how the Reed ammunition works out before depleting your supply. Hopefully, this great Hiwall will be a one hole shooter. I agree with other 1885 shooters that the barrel should be longer. However, she looks much better with the skinny Unertl on top.

Chapter 10, the Reed ammunition measures exactly or smaller than the chamber cast, but won't go the last 1/16" into the chamber. Since the main cylinder of the case measures correctly, I am assuming that the area behind the neck has not been sized to the real chamber dimension. The neck diameter is safely undersize. I don't have access to a case sizer, so I would like to take advantage of Rocky Mountain Bill's offer to send me some cases to try. I will PM Bill with my address. I am anxious to shoot this gun, thought today would be the day.

I have a couple of Highwalls in .219 Wasp and each is a different chamber. Apparently there were several versions or interpretations, ......hard to know which version yours was chambered for.

Thanks for the information. However, I have read every dimension with Vernier calipers and micrometers and compared them with the cast and cant find any difference. I am thinking the neck is farther forward in the Reed cases by thousandths, or that the neck is just thousandths longer. The cast neck is damaged at the very front, so I can't prove my last suspicion. Rocky Mountain Bill may solve my problems if I can mic his cases.