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I'm confused about the drop question. I know of two 32" barrel Sterlingworths that had 2-7/8" and 3" of drop. I also owned at least one Sterlingworth 16 and one Sterlingworth 12 with 28" barrels and 3 inches of drop.

The 12 gauge was probably minted as a Fox "Field Gun" as opposed to a "standard" Fox. It had slightly more open choke borings (.015 and .032).

Also, the production "Brush Gun" came with cylinder and Mod borings. I've only handled one of these while I have handled 26" guns with Mod and full chokes. My two 26" guns did have 3" of drop...that's why I sold them...

Bottom line is there is a lot of variation in the many Sterlingworths available out there. The buyer should be aware and careful to get exactly what he wants.

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FWIW, and it shows you one never knows, I have 2 Sterly's (late Savage made guns) that both have 2 1/2" DAH. Both have 26" barrels. One is 12 gauge and the other a 20 gauge. LOP on both is 14 1/8".


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I recently let a very decent 16 ga. Philadelphia Sterly go because of the 3" drop. It might have been fine on grouse, but I wanted a predictable shooter for the SxS shoots. Tut helped me search for a 12 with more modern dimensions and a Savage/Fox 12 was found and man it shoots well for me. It's 1 5/8 x 2 1/2".

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Im still searching if you guys can help. Id really like to find a philly gun or an early Utica gun with philly furniture. Thanks in advance for any help

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The drop at comb and heel is a fixed set of dims= laying a straight edge from the breech where the barrels close to the receiver, and thus back towards the stock's butt-- barrel length affects the pitch of the gun- usually down pitch from the muzzles.

Old school measurement for pitch- place the gun with the barrel/barrels flush to a 90% doorjamb- with the butt flat to the floor- the stand-off distance from the top rib at the muzzles to the edge of the jamb is the pitch as measured. Shape of the butt plate or recoil pad can also affect the pitch.

Many competition clays shooters prefer an almost zero pitch, whereas small game (rabbits , etc.) upland hunters will do better with a shotgun with an amount of down pitch.

This is my amateur description- best one I have ever read was Captain Paul A. Curtis's book 1934-Penn Publishing-- "Guns and Gunning"--

I have a 12 gauge L.C. Smith with two factory sets of barrels- 30" and also 28"--I have shot it a great deal over 40 years, and it fits me like a pinkie ring on a Goombah-- same stock, pad, receiver, LOP to pad from front trigger, same DAC and DAH, but measuring the down pitch using the above described "door jamb method", I get 2&1/2" downpitch for the 28" barrel set, and 3&1/8" downpitch with the 30" set of barrels in place- The DAH and DAC stays exactly the same, regardless of the barrel length.


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I thought the pitch measurement was always taken at 28 "

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"Many competition clays shooters prefer an almost zero pitch, whereas small game (rabbits , etc.) upland hunters will do better with a shotgun with an amount of down pitch."

Why is that?

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Captain Paul A. Curtis explains it quite well in his 1934 book- If you don't have a copy, e-mail me through this website link, and I'll reply with a quote from him on this.

The other gent that commented on the "pitch always being measured from 28" barrels-- OK- answer me this-- Are All shotguns made today, or even the ones of yesterday, with 28" barrels. The pitch degree or "stand-off" in inches from a plumb surface set to a 90% base angle will vary with the barrel length- which theory I proved with my L.C. Smith with 2 sets of factory barrels of different lengths. RWTF


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