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Chamber lenght usually wasn't marked back then....I suspect it was rechamberd and marked 3" at a later date in its tarted up life.
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I'd agree with you except it's a pigeon gun...Reilly dominated pigeon shoots. And there are two others like it posted above. So I'm inclined to stick with the "3 inches are original" line. By the way we went through this on French guns too....seems a lot of folk, even the French, we're putting the hottest rounds they could get into their guns around this time.
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Argo...none of that information is empirical. Sorry.
Many gun retailers advertising back in those days made a point to say guns they sold were built on premises. That was RARELY true. That’s been proven time & time again. Just a little detective work proves my point. No pictures or even descriptions of the factory. No apprentices that left and made their own guns. Are there ANY E.M Reilly factory workers listed in the Worshipful Company of Gunmakers? Any articles describing the work done at the Reilly factory? Who was the head gunmaker at the factory? The floor supervisor? If Reilly did indeed operate a working gun factory, those questions could very easily be answered. Company advertising and propaganda doesn’t make it so.
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Chamber lenght usually wasn't marked back then....I suspect it was rechamberd and marked 3" at a later date in its tarted up life. 1924 or so right? Pre-1924 would’ve been marked “LC” for long chamber. Right?
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It was common practice back then for gun makers to toot their own horns...
Most likely W.C.Scott & Sons made Riley guns.
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LeFusil, mon ami, the records don't exist. I can post the names of maybe 6 employees of Reilly...based on court cases and testimony, people who provided information on the firm at the world fairs, etc. There's nothing left...except that pesky 1880 census where E.M. Reilly said he employed 300 people. I've looked at the Worshipful Company of Gunmakers. There was one book which claimed J.C. Reilly joined in 1825. The site list, however, is difficult to manipulate; people who were prominent in gun making are not listed, or listed very late. I wrote to the Company asking for confirmation and information. Never received anything back. https://search.findmypast.com/search-wor...sions-1656-1936
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Once again people are just repeating what's been written for decades about Reilly and it's been demonstrated that much of that is just not true. Would appreciate you all reading the Reilly line then asking questions about what I've researched.
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Why so much excitement over Reilly guns ?
Did Reilly hold any patents ?
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Until there’s more evidence...Reilly was not an actual manufacturer of guns. They were a retailer. Pretty much every manufacturer that actually built complete guns in England is pretty well known. Especially ones that operated in a London. There were a few old time, Victorian and Edwardian sporting periodicals that went Factory to factory and discussed the guns being built...I have yet to see an archived article detailing Reilly’s mystery gunworks.
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Until LeFusil reads my line on Reilly History, Chronology, Serial Numbers, he is just giving an uninformed opinion. Sorry LeF....but that's the way I see it.
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