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I was aware of the ghost ring aperture sight, keith. My use of the threaded ring for a Merit disc, or other aperture disc with a small hole, approximates that. But, it negates the sharpening of focus and extension of field that a very small aperture causes to occur. That was my point. And, I disagree about the distance from the eye. Too many years of shooting "peep sights" have proven this to me. It needs to be very near the eye to get the full benefit of visual sharpening. That gizmo on the top lever won't do it, IMO.

Ghost sights are a compromise, at best, and best used for hunting and quick shots.

SRH

I do believe I said the ghost ring sight is best for hunting for use on running game or in lower light conditions. A very small target aperture may be totally useless under those conditions. This contraption the end of a top lever is even more of a compromise than a well designed ghost ring, but certainly could give more precise sighting than simply pointing a front bead when hunting at modest ranges with slugs or buckshot. It is an interesting variation, but I don't think it will ever put Lyman out of business. You are certainly correct that there is a point where an aperture becomes too large to provide a focusing of light rays.

I would think it couldn't be much bigger...

Has everyone forgot the reason the peep sight works so well.
It has nothing to do with focus or visual sharpness on the aperture and everything to do with the eyes natural tendency to center something in a circle.

Stan I'm not sure why you're so dead set that this will not work when for years Winchesters lever actions had flip up peeps on the action tang two or three inches behind the hammer. No doubt who ever made this thought it worked.

Nope. That's only part of the reason. The visual acuity and the parallax free nature of it is the rest, and for aging eyes .........the main reason. Look through as set of irons with a notch and post and notice the blurriness of the front post. Then look through an aperture sight at the same size post on the same length barrel and you will readily see for yourself how much sharper the front sight is through the aperture. Rifle and pistol shooters have to maintain sharp focus on the front sight as the shot is triggered. That is the wing shooter's anathema. Do that with a shotgun on a bird and you will shoot behind it every time. And THAT is why I think it's useless on a shotgun. But then, maybe the gun was built for a tUrkey hunter, or someone else who shoots sitting game. Still a stupid idea to have it on a moveable part of the gun like the top lever.

Take time to read the explanation of how that works, in the article I linked to earlier in the thread. It's not that long, and it's well written.

SRH

The reason the front sight is so much sharper is because that's the only part you focus on.

I don't use sights other than a bead on any shotgun....been there tried that nonsense.

You should live a little and take the aperture out of your peep sight and try the big hole.
I shot squirrels for years with a model 75 Winchester using the big hole.

Stan did you miss the second post of this thread ?

Nope. I don't put much stock in questions answering questions.



Did you miss this post of mine earlier in this thread?



Evidently.

SRH

Maybe it's just a reminder to keep your head down on the stock.

40,

Any chance of a picture of the flats? It's possible that could throw some light on the subject. "non pour balle" or "not for ball" on the barrels would certainly clear the question up pretty quick I imagine. How is the gun choked?

Not to throw more questions into the mix, but could a ghost ring on the top lever be used with buck shot to any positive effect? I have a defense shotgun with a ghost ring for buck shot, but again it is not mounted on the lever (its a pump anyways) but on the receiver top.

Probably one of the many gadgets used to help train people to keep a consistent hold with their gun. It wouldn't need to be as precise as a rifle peep sight but may help someone keep their head/eye in a position where they're looking in the same direction as the rib is running.
A bit like the clip on blinds or blanks used to make a person use one or other eye every time the put the gun to their shoulder.