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I believe you king that duck hunters can be some of the most unethical of hunters, with deer hunters not far behind. I prefer to hunt my lakes and marshes without a dog as cripples can be much easier to dispatched from a boat. After a flurry of shooting the birds can also be more quickly retrieved by boat. But I think you and I shoot waterfowl in much different circumstances. I much more prefer to spend time with gentleman upland hunters myself.


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Those are rather broad and priggish statements: being some of the most unethical hunters are duck hunters with deer hunters not too far behind. The biggest game hog I ever knew was one of your gentlemen bird hunters. Routinely shot birds over the limit.

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let me clarify then...generaly speaking...in my experience....in my area of the world.


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There's no legal way---or any way, to my mind---to penetrate a dense marsh should you know where the duck is hiding, certainly not by a set of oars. It's illegal to chase down a cripple under power.

My Labs have picked up broken-wings 400m from where they went down, almost always from places I hadn't imagined. An energetic broken-wing duck or goose can move faster than anyone in a marsh or field of corn.

As for picking up after a flurry of shooting, my Lab last week brought in five dead from the water and two cripples in blind retrieves from a nearby cornfield in less than seven or eight minutes. Try that in a boat.

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Originally Posted By: dal
I much more prefer to spend time with gentleman upland hunters myself.


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Queer beer....i don't drink American beer...well only yuengling...every time I have the opportunity.

I definitely hunt in a different way/style then you guys king...not better...just different. All the best.


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Originally Posted By: King Brown


As for picking up after a flurry of shooting, my Lab last week brought in five dead from the water and two cripples in blind retrieves from a nearby cornfield in less than seven or eight minutes. Try that in a boat.



Actually not that hard at all. Although I have never tried to launch a boat in a cornfield.

Over my 50 years of hunting I have seen slobs with dogs and slobs without dogs, and have personally hunted extensively with and without dogs. A dog doesn't make an ethical hunter, and neither does the absence of one. It is solely dependent on the person holding the gun.

I have been around countless hunters with dogs who I wouldn't want to ever spend another day afield with again due to their (and their dogs) boorish and ill trained behavior. And I have hunted with men who could put any retriever to shame with how skilled they are at marking a downed bird in heavy cover and make a quick retrieve.

We do not need elitism in the hunting fraternity, and the dog vs no dog mantra is one of the oldest fallacies in the book and is based solely on ignorance.



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Originally Posted By: Flintfan
Originally Posted By: King Brown


As for picking up after a flurry of shooting, my Lab last week brought in five dead from the water and two cripples in blind retrieves from a nearby cornfield in less than seven or eight minutes. Try that in a boat.



Actually not that hard at all. Although I have never tried to launch a boat in a cornfield.

Over my 50 years of hunting I have seen slobs with dogs and slobs without dogs, and have personally hunted extensively with and without dogs. A dog doesn't make an ethical hunter, and neither does the absence of one. It is solely dependent on the person holding the gun.

I have been around countless hunters with dogs who I wouldn't want to ever spend another day afield with again due to their (and their dogs) boorish and ill trained behavior. And I have hunted with men who could put any retriever to shame with how skilled they are at marking a downed bird in heavy cover and make a quick retrieve.

We do not need elitism in the hunting fraternity, and the dog vs no dog mantra is one of the oldest fallacies in the book and is based solely on ignorance.



Well said, Flintfan. Very well said.

And yes, I have used a boat and motor in a flooded cornfield to shoot and retrieve ducks. And whats more, I have seen crippled ducks escape a swimming dog.

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Originally Posted By: dal
I believe you king that duck hunters can be some of the most unethical of hunters, with deer hunters not far behind. I prefer to hunt my lakes and marshes without a dog as cripples can be much easier to dispatched from a boat. After a flurry of shooting the birds can also be more quickly retrieved by boat. But I think you and I shoot waterfowl in much different circumstances. I much more prefer to spend time with gentleman upland hunters myself.


Tell us about your duck hunting circumstance Dal....were all eArs.

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your a smart guy Joey....take your meds then read how king hunts....then imagine something different....more inline with flint.

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