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Originally Posted By: Run With The Fox
....no early morning hearty breakfasts with strong black coffee at the Tunica caf-


Been there and done that ............lunches after the hunt, too. That special place is named the Blue and White Restaurant, Tunica, MS ............ old Tunica, not the strip where all the casinos are. Been there since 1937. Their potato soup is to die for. At one time there was a live feed onto a big monitor in the restaurant from a local duck blind. Breakfasters could eat and watch the action.

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Bob,
The 12b weighs 6lbs. 8oz. and has a neutral balance. The 20b comes in at 6lbs. 2oz. and balances the same. Both are 26" and are choked IC//MOD. At the neutral balance they are lively without being whippy. I shoot them well even at targets simply because I have developed the necessary muscle memory needed for the light guns. I stick to 7/8 oz. in the 20b and 1 oz. for the 12b. and the recoil is light.
That 12b has been my main bird gun since acquiring it 15 years ago. My new 5 lb. 12 oz. 12b Churchill has become my bird gun now and it's working out nicely with RST 1 oz. loads. It's great for all day carry in the North grouse woods.
Hope this helps,
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Originally Posted By: Karl Graebner
I shoot them well even at targets simply because I have developed the necessary muscle memory needed for the light guns.


Well said, and so true.

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Originally Posted By: Run With The Fox
Stan- the late Nash Buckingham could not have said it better- I think of how he prevailed in the duck hunting seasons with his cataract surgery, late in life-- I have been an ardent waterfowler for 65 years hand runnin'-- except a few seasons I missed due to my commitment to Uncle Sam of course-- and it's all about the sound and the other senses that calls us back, season after season--

All my old hunting partners are now gone from this earth-- and many 4 legged companions as well- But no morning with the sun opening up through the clouds in the Eastern horizon, the whisper of wings, the chatter of mallards, and the honking of geese, will also call me for as long as I can get out. At age 77, I still have 20/15 distance vision, possibly as Gen. Chuck Yeager does, and he is a tad over my age-- A gift from the good Lord-and I hope that you continue to have good health and vision for the years yet to come--


Sitting on the curb waiting on a ride gives someone time to do a lot of pondering.

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Not quite sure what you mean: "sittin' on the crib, waitin' for a ride" Joseph. Did you perhaps mean "curb"?? Nash B. never drove a car, at least from what I have read about him. His hunting pals picked him up-

OT- but I still wonder how a die-hard shotgunner could have not grabbed his first Becker/Fox Magnum- Dec. 1948, back from the game warden- somehow trusting that he might have put it back in the car- but that's history. RWTF


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Forgive me but...there's more to the story of the missing Bo Whoop? A game warden was involved?

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Ted, the same thing happened to me a few years ago when in Florida for vacation in late April. That February I had cataract surgery in both eyes and for my astigmatism I had two lenses put in. My vision was 20/30 in my right eye (dominant) and 20/20 in my left eye. It was great no glasses except sun glasses and shooting glasses. When in Florida I was in the pool with the grandkids and came out and the wife and I went to the store to get some groceries. While going through the isles I picked up a bag or a can and had trouble reading the contents. I thought maybe it was just from being in the pool with the chlorine. The next morning it was the same and called my family optometrist in Pennsylvania who stated I should immediately go see an optometrist there.
forgot to mention that I had been to my optometrist for some lazer work in both of my eyes due to floaters.
So I had surgery there and they put a band around my left eye and told that I would be nearsighted. I now have glasses to correct that and now my vision is 20/20 in left and 20/30 in right. Without glasses I can read as my left eye can see very clearly to about 20", beyond that it starts getting blurry.

It was explained to me that if I had not gone when I did and the vison became black that it could not have been fixed then and I would not see out of that eye ever.
The first time I had lazer surgery was I was hunting and on the way home for some reason I closed my right eye and could only see through the bottom, as if a curtain had partially closed in my eye. That was on Sunday and called around and this optometrist went and opened his office and fixed it. Every six months I go and have my eyes checked and knock on wood they have been the same since I had the bank put in. My optometrist in PA said I got the Gold treatment by having the band. I still had insurance in April but in June when I received the bill from Florida it said I owed $37000 plus. By May I was now on Medicare but since in happened in April the insurance covered it completely.

So to all getting up in age make sure you go to your doctors as things like this take longer and are more dangerous.

Ted, I hope that your band is different than mine and you do recover your full eye sight. From what happened I was worried about shooting and asked the doctor and he said shoot light loads. Since then I have only been shooting 3/4 oz and not over 8,000 PSI. in 12 ga.


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I believe some of the details of that "Fubar" are contained in George Bird Evans book- "The Best of Nash Buckingham"--- as if there could have been anything lesser from "The Shootin'ist Gentleman from TN"--

With all notedc credit due to Harold Money and his legendary M97 Winchester- and De bottle of Brooklyn Handicap whiskey.. Great stories all, my favorite that doesn't deal with shotguns is: "The Great Reprisal"-- just as my favorite of all of Havilah Babcock's stories is: "Tennessee"! RWTF

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Bob,
Mine is just under 6 1/2 lbs. Good weight for a 12 bird gun. Not a 100 straight at the club gun, but, the pheasants and grouse should be worried.



David,
Sitting here looking at the kids IPad, I have discovered I dont need the bifocal section of the left lens to read the letters. The right eye, my good one as it were, I am dependent on the bifocal. And, the left was, previously.
So, I am just a bit better off in that regard.
The surgeon said it was getting close to the point to have a look at a new lens for the left eye.
Time will tell what else I get.
Good luck to you with your eyesight. My doctor was completely unconcerned with my shooting, and I pointedly asked him about half a dozen times. He did remark that he thought it was a perfect repair, and, to pay very close attention to the vision in my right eye.
That one might be next. Or, maybe not.

Best,
Ted

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