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On an English gun, is there a specific front bead location standard? Cut a barrel to correct a previously poor cut, aggressive pitting, and would like the replace the bead in the correct location.
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Bill, I thinks the standard is 1/3rd of the barrel length back from the front bead. Someone will correct if I'm wrong. Best Wishes...Geo
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Geo, I think he is referring to the location of the front bead.
I learn something every day, and a lot of times it's that what I learned the day before was wrong
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Geo, I think he is referring to the location of the front bead. Probably help if I paid more attention. Nevertheless, once he puts on the front bead, he's gonna want to know where to place the 2nd one. Well he might...Geo
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Hi George-- I own and shoot 3 12 gauge guns with (past tense) mid-rib bead sights-- (1) 1948 M12 Pigeon Grade Trap gun 30" VR barrel-- front sight is about 1/2" back from muzzle- mid rib bead sight is aprox. 1/3rd, back to the "Duckbilled top rib extension-
My Ideal Grade LONGRANGE has 32" barrels, file cut rib-- midbead is aprox. 1/2 way back, but it is possible that smallish bead was added later- dates to 1929-- I'm NOT by any means the original owner-- I find it somewhat convenient for turkey hunting--
My Mossenburgher Ulti-Mag (black special ops. 835 ) 3&1/2" capable, came with a goldish mid-bead- got knocked loose in a duck blind late season gunning- never replaced it, but epoxied the threaded hole in the VR to keep out water, rust and crud--
When I shot Trap with the M12- pre-mounting the gun, I found the mid-bead sight somewhat helpful-- mainly to prevent "canting" the gun-- but for wing shooting, I never see the front sight bead, let alone any mid-rib bead-- so it is a "moot point" I should guess- RWTF
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Fox I agree 1/2 inch back is about right for the front bead. However I have some that are "hanging ten" right over the muzzle, so there is some variation among makers...Geo
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George, There is quite a variation between makers. My Churchill had the front bead even with the muzzle which had been snagged and subsequently damaged the front of the rib. Del Whitman relocated the bead about one bead diameter to the rear and put an indexed screw in the original place. Karl
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I have fitted dozens of bead sights , to new barrels , new ribs , shortened/lengthened barrels . Just put it where it looks right .About say a 1/4" inch in from the muzzle on a standard rib , a bit further back [3/8"] on a wide one .
Last edited by gunman; 03/08/19 08:13 AM.
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Gunman how do you lengthen barrels?
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I put them in my barrel stretcher I store it next to the bucket of dial tone.
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