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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
Another wAsh women looking for a trophy.

A 32" barreled heavy proofed 12 gauge for a big tuff pigeon and a pOp gun for a turkey....did someone say density.

Go figure.

This is too funny. He doesn't know the difference between shooting at a flying bird and one standing on the ground, stationary.

Crack another one, Coxey. You da' man.

Rotflmao...
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Originally Posted By: Stan
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Originally Posted By: John Roberts
Did you not see the title of the thread or watch the video Stan? The video guy states he likes the .410 and TSS for the ‘challenge’. Be real man. You and BrentD deserve one another, birds of the same feather. crazy


You're getting as dense a your mentOr, buzz. Nothing in the title of this thread, nor the video, pushes anybody else to use it. That is what I said. Both of them are commenting on what they like, not what you should use, bUzz. Talking about density .............

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.....And, you always seem to enjoy twisting and manipulating words around to suit your needs, SRH. Of course it’s a push. You don’t think Henry wants to sell more of their single shot pop guns, or are they just making pop guns out of the goodness of their hearts for the general public that want to shoot a turkey with the .410? And, the ammunition companies........They don’t want to make any money either, eh? They are just producing these $10 apiece shells out of the goodness of their hearts for the sportsman who wants to pop a turkey with a little pea shooter utilizing TSS. Nah, there’s no push, neither Henry nor the ammo companies are marketing their wares, or are they?? The video was produced by “Henry TV”. The commentator was wearing a shirt with the word “Henry” embossed on the front of it. That’s marketing Stan, and if they are marketing and advertising, there’s a push, as simple and dense as that.

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If you feel "pushed" by a guy in a video showing patterns and saying "I'm not trying get you guys to change your mind about whether or not you like a .410, or whether it is ethical for turkeys. I'll let you make your mind up after you see these targets"", or any company advertising their wares, you must be pretty insecure. I don't feel pushed at all ............ by the video, by anyone on this forum who wants to use TSS, or .410s, or anything else they favor, for heaven's sake. That's a simple, laid back advertising video. Pushed? Nah.

Have a great Friday, buzz. Try not to let that "pushy" advertising get to you so bad.

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“You must be pretty insecure”.....nah, I’m not insecure, Stan. I’m just realistic and read it as I see it. Oddly, you can’t see they are marketing and advertising their wares. I’m not going to say that you are, or call you insecure, Stan, like you name called me. I think in this case, naive would be a better description since it appears you don’t have an understanding of business or marketing, at least in this instance. BTW, when is your single shot arriving? .....since you took in all the hype...hook, line and sinker, I’m figuring you got one coming too, or have at least thought about it. ;-)

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I'm pretty seriously thinking about getting one of the .410 lever actions Henry is making now. Not to hunt turkeys with. Just to screw around. I think it would be a hoot to shoot the wobble trap doubles at my club. The gun would have no real practical application for me. But since when does that matter? I handled one at my local Scheels. They're pretty nice.


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Originally Posted By: Stan
Originally Posted By: buzz
Bragging rights, is that it? This push to kill turkeys with sub gauge guns makes almost no sense to me.


Just a comment from an unbiased reader .............. I don't see anyone on this forum "pushing" anybody else to use TSS or subguage guns for turkey hunting. What I see is people who favor 12 gauge guns and lead shot putting down those who want to use a lightweight gun and an alternate load that apparently kills well within 30 yards, and beyond. It's the big gun guys who appear to be defensive, not the .410 TSS users.

I've not seen a single one here, who badmouths the TSS loads, that has admitted to having tried them and determined they are inadequate.

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Arguments over turkey ammo are nothing new. Tom Kelly's 1973 classic, The Tenth Legion, acknowledges the squabbles and in order to avoid arguing when asked what he shot answered: "4's or 6's depending on what was on the hardware store shelf when I bought shells."
Here are three guns that I've used to hunt turkeys. The top, is an Ithaca NID 10 ga. 3.5" chambered made in 1939. It was a run of 877 shotguns mostly made in 10 ga. but with a few 12 ga. magnums as well. Previously shooting an Ithaca M37 chambered for 2.75" 12 ga. which was rechoked by Stan Baker, I bought the NID about 40 years ago from Thad Scott for $800-850. I later sold it to a friend and immediately regretted doing so and tried buying it back. He later relented and 5 years ago I traded him my SBE with a Trijicon reflex. The heaviest load I shot out of it was 2.5 oz. of #3 magnum shot (St. Louie Threes) handloaded as a spreader load which shot 55% in a 30" circle at 40 yards. The left barrel was 95% with large shot at the same distance. It weighs 11 lbs., 1 oz. unloaded. My buddy handloaded up to 3 oz. of #4's for turkeys. The 20 ga. is a Baikal MP18 weighing 5 lbs., 7 oz. rigged and I shoot 1 5/8 of TSS 9's out of it.
Frank's Favorite is the Yildiz .410 weighing 3 lbs., 4 oz. rigged. I shoot 9's or 9.5's out of it. 159 in the 10" circle at 40 yards on which the red dot is centered. Since having the .410 modified by Sumtoy in 2012, he's modified over 200 for folks throughout the country. I've had intervening 12 gauges and 20's since I first bought the 10 ga. but I haven't enjoyed any guns as much as the bottom 2 for the purpose intended. To each his own.

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A couple of things I found interesting in the video was the energy delivered by the TSS 9's to cause the amount of wood splinters flying from the back of the wood pallet when they strike the target, and the Flite Control wad's rotation as it follows impact. Graphic proof of how hard the stuff hits.

I'm staying with the TSS 7's in my 20 ga. And I think Federal is really onto something with their Flite Control wads...
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Buzz you might as well be talking to a tree when the wAsh sistas show up.

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Looks like you guys must have indeed found the better mouse trap.

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