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I have a drilling with no maker or seller marks that I can find. Nitro proof in script so not proofed in suhl, Mabe Zeller Malhis? 16x16 over 6.58rSauer .proofed with steel jacket.I rubbed marks with chalk click on picture and expand . Any clue about maker?. Also ammo hard to find if someone has a store of 6.5 58R Sauer they can spare.

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GMCS,
No clue as to maker. You are correct that it is 6.5x58R S&S. The 16 in a circle means it has 65mm( 2 1/2-2 9/16")16 ga. chambers. The crown W means that barrel is choked, but amount of constriction not given. The crown G means that barrel was proofed for a single projectile(bullet). The crown U is the mark for a View proof, performed after definitive proof, which amounts to a detailed inspection, including verification of dimensions. It was proofed in September 1926( 9,26). The numbers under the date are the ledger number. The ledger number, along with "Nitro" written in script, confirms the gun was proofed( and likely made in or near) in Zella-Mehlis rather than Suhl, as you thought. I don't know of any current source of commercial ammo. This cartridge is largely a hand loading exercise and a fairly complicated one at that. Cases are difficult to make and bullets are usually smaller than available .264" diameter. If you can find custom loaded ammo, it is likely to be expensive, as would cases.
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Thank you Skeettx and Mike. I have a partial box of rifle ammo and have ordered another couple more. If I find some dies I will feel lucky

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What might be those Os on the left side of the fore & aft lugs? Any maker's marks on the water-table or standing breech?


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Could these be the right dies? 15th down. Dave has a lot of oddball stuff if a fella just looks.



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Yes and they can modify the expander ball to match the chamber cast
Thank you sharps4590

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Ellenbr the marks on the side of lugs are 0 they are well stamped. There is a mark near the tube joints. R__0 or something close. Possibly the tube set builder?. I may take it to the southern sxs and see if anyone at the German gun collectors table can make anything out of them.

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BTW, the crown S above the crown W is the proof mark for "shot".
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