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the second amendment to the federal constitution, refers to ..."the security of a free state"...
the concept that the states were free and therefore sovereign was established in the federal constitution in 1791...
the sanctity of the freedom of the states was honored by all presidents, until a. lincoln became president by default, in a four way split election...shortly after taking office, lincoln raised armies and invaded several sovereign states, including, missouri, kentucky, maryland, and of course, virginia...thus, plunging the nation into civil war...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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what has always puzzled me, is why did so many northern men and boys answer lincoln's call in 1861? why was preserving the federal union all that important to them at that time?
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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what has always puzzled me, is why did so many northern men and boys answer lincoln's call in 1861? why was preserving the federal union all that important to them at that time? They believed the opposite of whatever bullshit you rebs are pedaling. __________________________ You lost. Accept the situation.
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roads... well, wish it were that simple, but it aint...when a foreign army invades your world and threatens everything and everyone that you hold dear, it is no longer about politics...its about survival...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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what has always puzzled me, is why did so many northern men and boys answer lincoln's call in 1861? why was preserving the federal union all that important to them at that time? The north had almost an endless supply of soldiers getting off the boats at Ellis Island...I don't think they had any other choice.
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I am a southerner by birth and a Georgian by the grace of God, but refighting the civil war is silly. We lost and that was best in the long run for all Americans. The only flag I ever saluted was the Stars and Stripes...Geo About like an illegal being born here and being a US Citizen....Born in the south does not a Southerner make. That part about being best in the long run is pretty far from the truth....if the South had won we wouldn't be in the turmoil our country is in now. If Lincoln had lived long enough to deport the slaves as he planned then I'd say he was the greatest President ever. Archived.
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What does any of this racist talk and ad hominem attacks have to do with 2 inch guns????
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Men signed up by states. Served with fellows from the same state and fought as state units. Ever look at how both armies were composed. It was by state units not a national army. A lot if not the majority fought for their state as much as anything early in the war. Lee was offered command of the Union army but declined because he knew Virginia was not going to remain in the union. He was more loyal to his state than what many felt was a broken Federal system. Some feel that way today. Big states trying to dictate rule and law everywhere.
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William Tecumseh Sherman set the mold for later villains in wartime: Hitler, Himmler, Stalin, Tojo, Chairman Mao-- No war has any degree of civility in its battle plan-- The "War of Northern Aggression" left scars upon our land, whether North of South of the Mason-Dixon line, that still exist today-- RWTF Sounds much like the "War of Southern Stupidity". Let's not go there either. I only came into this discussion after my Ancestors were Called Stupid, By a "STUPID" individual. When he tried to leave HIS statement as Fact & then said Let's Not Go There, that outright LIE could simply not be left unchallenged. People who don't want a thread side-tracked need to STOP throwing Slurs at others. Just for the record, Sherman was not the only Mold-Maker for Hitler & his likes. Hitler was a Devoted Fan of ole Abe Lincoln & studied him seriously.
Miller/TN
I Didn't Say Everything I Said, Yogi Berra
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William Tecumseh Sherman set the mold for later villains in wartime: Hitler, Himmler, Stalin, Tojo, Chairman Mao-- No war has any degree of civility in its battle plan-- The "War of Northern Aggression" left scars upon our land, whether North of South of the Mason-Dixon line, that still exist today-- RWTF Sounds much like the "War of Southern Stupidity". Let's not go there either. I only came into this discussion after my Ancestors were Called Stupid, By a "STUPID" individual. When he tried to leave HIS statement as Fact & then said Let's Not Go There, that outright LIE could simply not be left unchallenged. People who don't want a thread side-tracked need to STOP throwing Slurs at others. Just for the record, Sherman was not the only Mold-Maker for Hitler & his likes. Hitler was a Devoted Fan of ole Abe Lincoln & studied him seriously. 2-piper, that started with RWTF's post. It's interesting how people react when responded to in kind.
_________ BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/qclHjMQ.jpg)
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