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And about time, gents. What I started as a simple inquiry into what I took to be a rather strange policy from Cabela's _Bass-Blasters-Ltd. . Turned into another political crap-fest. Come on, lads- when a thread on the DGS forum, no matter which one, becomes a "micturation contest" it's time to just walk away.

I am a bit curious though-if I were willing to give them (Cabela's) their asking price first on this "un-original-IMO anyway) plus MI 6% sales tax-- just to have them remove the trigger lock so I could do a "pre-sale checky-check" on it- and it didn't check out correctly, would they rip up my check and cancel the paperwork- or would I be "stuck" with my Parker purchase.

We did get the forearm off w/o any problems, so I did check out the details on the barrel flats, etc-- that furthered my suspicions about this shotgun- so there was no chance it would be going home with me Fri- for $4k- or even $2500- no way indeed.. RWTF

RWF do you know if this policy is true of ALL Cabelas? I was in one in Omaha, but didn't see anything I wanted to look at seriously so I did not test them. Next time I happen to be in one, I think I will.

The trigger locks may be a BP rule, but I gotta believe they are more reasonable in most stores with respect to supervised inspection from a serious customer. But perhaps not. I don't see much good coming to Cabelas from the BP takeover.

Fox, if you're asking here, isn't time to just walk away from this gun? Why not get their return policy in writting, and buy the thing for your price and your reasonable concept of what condition it should be in? I don't know if it's worth quibbling with a store clerk about double gun subtleties. Let them have their trigger lock rule, it's up to the buyer if they want the gun.

The same policy is in place at the Columbus, Ohio store. They told me it was a Bass Pro policy. I was looking at a Winchester 52 and was told they would not remove the lock. No exceptions.
Also noticed a much reduced inventory of used guns.
While there shopped the ammo area. It has been moved and the shelving space much reduced. And as noted in other threads no more Herters shot shells.

Not sure it makes much difference re your complaint Foxy, but I know spelling and grammar is a pet peeve of yours, so I think you meant to say �micturition�.

Brent- I can only speak for the 2 major Cabela's outlets in MI- Grandville (a 40 min. drive in good weather from my residence) and the one downState in Dundee-- We were down there between Christmas and the New Year- and I had the same experience in their GL-again with the manager- not some 21 year old lad who would NOT know a Parker shotgun from a Parker fountain pen. As for the other CL_Bass-my Ass-Pro outlets and if they have gun libraries in operation, I cannot say with any degree of accuracy-- But thanks for asking me... RWTF

They have no store policy about returns for full refund that I am aware of-- so If I were foolish enough to buy it at any price, I would be "stuck with it". I already have a graded Parker- a 12 GHE 28" barrels (thanks to my late friend Brad B.) so this would be a "duplicate"-

OK Parker guys- feel free tyo "jump in here"-- This GL DHE was made aprox. 1906: We ran the sn through the PGCA website for that data- Yet the barrels are marked, on the flats- Imp. Cyl. right tube Mod left tube, the gun is on a 1&1/2 No. frame-- It has the 12&1/2% pinned in place tool steel wear plate- and has the initials J.G. stamped on the flats- hard to see, but there--

Still with me?--Now I am NOT any Parker expert-- and we only got the details from the barrels- the flats, the OAL, et c-- But here's a short list of my "concerns"-- in 1906-- a 12 gauge Parker grade 3- would it have the 12&1/2 degree wear plate "as issued"?

Would it not be more likely to have a No. 2 frame? Was Jim Gary (Gerry)? employed by the Bro.s Parker then? Did they mark the chokes on the barrel flats then?

The top rib has the proper "Titanic" Steel markings for a grade 3- but they measure an even 28&1/2"-- the front sight bead is set back from the edge of the barrels aprox. 3/16"--the solder keels have some form of markings, solder being softer than the barrel steel, if they were cut-would show the teeth marks, correct.?

Not 100% sure on this, as a close friend has a BE 12 A.H. Fox. with the pre-WW1 Krupp barrels, choked M&F- and they are 29&1/2" in length- chokes reflect the tight patterns that old Fox shoots with Trap loads-- So, who can say.

The $2500 is what Cabela's paid for it--the manager and I had established a bit of rapport by then-- they told the seller that they weren't sure of a "Del Grego" re-finish work-- and as the seller did NOT have a signed letterhead invoice from Del Grego tied to the SN-- they couldn't give him "top dollar"-- also the shortened buttstock- and loss of the Skeleton steel BP and replacement by a Mershon white line pad-- were those available in 1906??

All added up to a "no thank you, but thanks for letting me look at it-type of experience. RWTF

Yup-- dates back 60 years to my HS weekly newspaper- I was editor-in-chief my senior year- I think we are both somewhat right here, FWIW- Page 898 of my Webster's New World: Micturate --same as Urinate--, how-some-ever-- Micturition-- to desire to urinate.

I tried to take a "higher road" here, as I wasn't sure if any Ladies might be reading my post, but I am sure had I written "pissing contest", well, we both would not be learning something new each day, would we-- RWTF -30-

In 1906 a Parker would have the flat wear plate. It was not until About 1910 the tapered wear plate was adopted. Though wear plates are replaceable the change from flat to tapered requires machining of the underlug to fit. And the choke markings are definitely aftermarket add ons from a later a period. The barrels have been cut.

This issue got locked down because it naturally drifted into partisan politics. No doubt it will do so again, so why not just leave it locked down...Geo

Did the -30- come from high school newspaper? You guys were really in gear!

Francis:

You know I'm reading it so had better take the "high road".

Cheers,

Raimey
rse

Yes it did- and that interest got me into Hemingway's life and writings- his concise style came from both Lincoln Steffens' "Cabelese" and his early start with newpaper writing style.. RWTF

Same to you, my Dixieland fruend-- Der Fuchs--

I can assure you and Fox, Geo, that I have said all I am going to say on the subject, and am out of this one. But with 2415 views in a short period before lockdown, it's hard to make the argument that political threads drive people away. That's like saying a magnet drives iron filings away.

I'm just so glad that Dave locked Fox's other thread instead of deleting it. It is still there for anyone to read, and there is a lot of stuff within it that shouldn't get hidden or destroyed.

Hey Geo., I thought you were okay with those lawyer ribbings.

It may have started bowl and then swirled south. Some Parker gun authentication threads are good stuff. It's amazing how much can be discovered about a gun, even when it has a big ole chunk of trigger guard stuck on it.

I rarely agree with much you post, but on this we can agree. It is good for folks to be able read the posts in the now locked post on Cabela's.

Craig, now that I'm retired the legal profession seems a much more noble enterprise. Probably my retirement that upgraded it...Geo

So, George, does that mean you are "Of Counsel"?? I read a lot of John Grisham and my favorite of all his novels is "Runaway Jury"--

Yeah Fox, I'm officially retired but remain "Of Counsel" to the firm mainly for the purpose of directing clients I've accumulated over the years to someone still in the firm. I do retain my State Bar membership and license to practice just in case somebody rubs me the wrong way, or one of my kids needs help with a loan closing or something. I like Grisham too...Geo