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Originally Posted By: King Brown
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The NRA's infighting culminating in Oliver's departure and LaPierre talking extortion today, with New York opening an investigation of its finances, won't do much for the brand, either.


Hopefully not long for this world either.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/01/nra-russia-investigations-gun-lobby


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Originally Posted By: King Brown
"It really does matter who we put in the White House when it come to maintaining our Constitutional Right to own and shoot firearms, and that includes our doubles."

keith, the treaty has nothing to do with our doubles....

King, did you read or listen to the words of the US President? He accurately framed the issue as a national sovereignty issue. How would you expect an international arms treaty to work without identifying the 'arms'? Of course, it's rediculous to think a eurocrat will come knocking on a US door to confiscate, there would be many smaller increments that preceeded, eh?

Don't worry yourself over reports of infighting at the NRA, a sitting US President wouldn't give a policy speech at a venue that wasn't fully vetted. Their brand is just fine in truth, just not in the hearts of those who feel otherwise. Are they investigating 'finances' or contributions to lawmakers that implement policy that agrees with the NRA's stated goals? Don't forget, 'Natural England' is a powerful group of buddies that may have an agenda, but certainly has a CEO.

edit to add, nca and secular progressives, better than any fund raising drive the NRA could dream up

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Two things: politicians framing things as they see it doesn't make it so, and none should worry about how NRA entanglement with a gang of Russian influencers turns out.

The FBI always gets its man, and LaPierre is raging that some of his men got the NRA into a honey pickle. The only small increments that come to mind are bump stocks, eh?

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It's good to see nca225 and King Brown being so gleeful about the remote prospects that recent events at the NRA might do the organization lasting damage. It is just further proof that the Liberal Left Socialists who frequent this forum are no help to the cause of maintaining our 2nd Amendment Rights.

There has been infighting and turmoil at the NRA before, and it appears that King's nemesis LaPierre will continue to have overwhelming support of members and the Board of Directors. Ollie will be but a footnote in the long history of the NRA. The investigation by New York State is simply more evidence that the Liberal Left is engaged in a never ending quest to undermine our gun rights... this time by attempting to weaken and damage the NRA.

This is the kind of crap King, nca225, rocky mtn bill, and other Liberal Left Democrats celebrate. It is foolish to think we need back-stabbers like this in our ranks.

The U.N. Small Arms Treaty did not pose an "immediate" threat to doubles or the 2nd Amendment. But supporters of the U.N. Small Arms Treaty were repeatedly asked to include language that specifically protected our 2nd Amendment Rights. THEY REFUSED ANY SUCH GUARANTEE. Liberal Left Anti-gunners have repeatedly shown that they cannot be trusted when it comes to infringing upon the Gun Rights of law abiding U.S. citizens. Only a LULLER like the anti-gun troll King Brown would ask us to trust them by signing on to a binding U.N. Treaty that opened the door to giving up our sovereignty.

How many times do we have to hear anti-gun Liberal Liberal Left Democrats promise to respect the 2nd Amendment, and then see them work relentlessly to weaken it by passing new anti-gun laws or appointing anti-gun Judges? Then we have guys like King... constantly predicting the demise of the NRA, even when membership surged in 2013... And predicting the demise of the shooting sports even as millions of new gun owners joined our ranks when his hero Obama threatened new restrictions. This will be his enduring legacy here. King is about as helpful as a screen door in a submarine.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Update .
After working all hours that God sends to draft new licences over the last few days , including working all weekend . The Government Department Natural England have managed to write documents that are totally inept and unworkable . The major Sports Associations have released statements that the proposed new documents are not fit for purpose . Meanwhile our newborn lambs and previously protected species are subject to injury , harrassment and death from these marauding pest species . Thank you Conservationist Loony Chris Packham.

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Not gleeful, keith. Just saying the US and this board doesn't need more the-sky-is-falling notions. It's much about nothing for shooters---we've been through this here previously---and truth and justice will unfold as they should in good time.

LaPierre has given a strong rebuke to NRA leaders and supporters for messing around blatantly with the Russians for partisan political advantage, and the only one smiling in US-Russia relations today is cagey Putin. Keep cool.

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When truth and justice unfolds King, we wil most likely see that you are on the wrong side again. Too bad you weren't so interested in pols playing footsie with Putin when it was Obama promising Medvedev he would be more flexible after the 2012 election, or when the Clintons were getting very large money for speeches after the Uranium One deal.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Originally Posted By: salopian
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After working all hours that God sends to draft new licences over the last few days , including working all weekend . The Government Department Natural England have managed to write documents that are totally inept and unworkable . The major Sports Associations have released statements that the proposed new documents are not fit for purpose . Meanwhile our newborn lambs and previously protected species are subject to injury , harrassment and death from these marauding pest species . Thank you Conservationist Loony Chris Packham.


That is a real shame, Salopian. But just as your govt is quite capable of doing things like that, ours--unfortunately--also goes astray on occasion.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
....Just saying the US and this board doesn't need more the-sky-is-falling notions. It's much about nothing for shooters---we've been through this here previously---and truth and justice will unfold as they should in good time....

Shooters vacation in places like Toronto, truth and justice are based on Constitutional Rights, not advisory boards. Whose truth and social justice, the gun control by extinction corollary advisory board?

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There's no consensus of constitutional rights, craig, if we're to believe pros and cons of what members say about courts interpreting different ways, depending on who's "in."

As for truth and justice, the US usually gets it right over time with its splendid checks and balances. In that sense, the final arbiters are voters, not advisory boards.

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