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#545753 05/12/19 09:11 AM
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What I am wanting to know is there a point or a rule of thumb that says once a barrel has been dented Beyond some point it is no longer safe to repair

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no rule of thumb but do look for cracks. I have lifted some really ugly dents that worked out just fine.
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Travis, dents need to be evaluated on an individual basis. But there will always be rational judgement involved, and no hard and fast rules. This is complicated by the fact that there are many different types of steel (or iron and steel in the case of Damascus and Twist) used to make barrels.

Barrels are thicker near the breech, and therefore it is easier to dent them further out where the walls become thinner. Lighter guns usually have thinner barrels, and really thin barrels can be much more easily dented in a fall or when struck by a car door, etc. But that is not to say they absolutely can't be dented back where pressures are higher. Raising dents where the wall thickness is greater is more difficult and takes more time. Dents always displace metal. Putting that metal back into place will naturally create some work hardening, but that is seldom a problem. Dents which can be seen inside the bore constitute an obstruction, and should always be removed before using the gun. Deeper dents are more likely to cause a crack than shallow dents. Dents near the ribs may crack or loosen the rib solder joints. That isn't necessarily dangerous, but the additional expense of rib repair may make it uneconomical. Dents near the ribs are naturally harder to remove because it isn't as easy to tap all the way around them with a dent removal hammer.

Some sharp dents are the result of the barrels hitting a sharp corner or rock, and the crease cannot be completely removed by simple dent raising techniques. When people draw file or strike the barrels on the outside, and perhaps hone them on the inside, to remove all evidence of such sharp dents, the barrel walls are naturally made thinner. If this is done too far back, or where your hands wrap around the barrels while shooting, it can create a dangerous situation.



That one is going to leave a mark which would have to be draw filed off and refinished in order to remove evidence of the damage. Opinions vary on just how thin is safe at various points along the barrels. There are numerous threads in the archives here with opinions of what is safe wall thickness.


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Thanks for the replies

It is a lefever Nitro barrel that got dented and it looks like no cracks and will not need to file strike the outside. A bit of sanding will get the exterior done and a small amount of polishing for the interior.

The pisser of it all is that this was a great set of barrels and they fell and hit the top angle iron support of my hydraulic press. The iron wa s1/8" thick but fortunately a little radiused where the barrels made contact. The dent was pretty dented but not a sharp crease. Needless to say I was none-too happy with myself. The dent was about 12" from the muzzle and pretty much at about the 7:00 position on the bottom outside of the left barrel.

I think it will all work out I was going to reblue anyway so it goes.

Thanks again

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Good to hear a positive outcome. A couple of things I find useful are a copper hammer and a very light swing using it. I try to use my wrist not my arm like when driving a nail. Light hammer blows leaves little or no marks on the exterior. Another thing that really helps is Polyethylene Film Tape sold by Lanmar. Really keeps the metal clean and very helpful when fitting new screws to a gun as well. I use the .003" most often but the .010" is handy as well.


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